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    Ooooooh boy do I have lots to tell you guys. I guess this isn't seeking much advice, aside from how to help someone deal with having to cut off someone in their family.

    Okay, so a few months ago, Al's family DID end up moving back in. Fixing the Ford Explorer didn't work. My uncle took it and two (count 'em, FUCKING TWO!) master mechanics couldn't fix this goddamn thing! The usual began to happen. His sister and her husband quit their jobs after a week in, etc, etc.

    So my uncle loaned us his truck and Al bribed a friend with pizza to move our grand total of about six or seven boxes of stuff, and we moved into our glorious new 3 br/2 ba trailer. (lol)

    The Explorer continued to not be fixed so my uncle (praise Odin ) shelled out a little over $1000 to buy us a car. This isn't just free money--we're already going to pay him about $10k for the trailer, and he's adding this on to that, for not a lot per month, actually. Al has gotten super-proud of himself, he now has his own place and his own car in his name. My uncle even invited us over to his place one Sunday and we repaid him the $200ish we owed him for helping us title/etc the car. They listened to us complain about his mooching family and, like normal people, advised us to not pay a red cent, it's their own fault for failing basic adulting so badly by not having jobs, and by quitting the ones they did have after a week and a half...etc. So we will at least have SOME normal adults to speak to who know what it's like. (I like to joke that my uncle is Al in 20 years, plus or minus the diabetes.)

    Now, I've always assumed Al's mom was an enabler. I've seen that a bunch of times.

    But this takes the cake. This is beyond the cake. I never realized just how BAD his mother could get.

    It started with her asking Al to pay some of their bills. We didn't have the money and he wasn't inclined to do it to begin with. Then it moved on to, "Can you pay these (almost $500 worth) bills on Friday when you get paid?"

    He continued to say no.

    Their water was shut off, then their electricity (I think both have since come back on due to their talking to the companies about there being an elder in the house on oxygen or something, I dunno).

    Now, Al was thiiiiiiiiiiis close to paying the water bill, which was about $60. I've been agreeing with his decision not to pay the bills so I was a little upset he'd even consider this.

    But then his mother sent him a picture. It was some email from the phone company--agreeing to make a payment on HIS PAYDAY.



    That ended it. Right there.

    Here's just a sample of what vitriol she has sent him so far:

    Small price for us to let you alone
    $480 is not that small when your paycheck every 2 weeks is not even $1000.

    You have your own phones, don't you? That's why you don't care if we don't have any
    Nope, but we're getting some soon.

    You're going to let me (Your mother) go without a phone?
    One word. Safelink. Oh wait, you're addicted to your dataplan with its 5 phones and 3 tablets.

    The Al I knew (my son) wouldn't do this.
    The Al she knew, and this is almost verbatim what he himself told me, would still be there. Would be only dating online because he didn't have the courage for anything else. Would still be in a dead-end temp job....etc.

    And the grand finale came last night. Right after she said this, she said "Goodnight and remember I love you very much" ():

    When I'm dead it's too late


    Oh that's a low blow. She had demanded an answer as to why we can't help, and I asked what he wanted me to type, and he said "Just write 'I can't.'

    When I asked if he was sure he responded with the title of this post.

    I gave him a big hug.


    We're going to be fine now. It'll be a bit tight finance-wise, but Al will come home to a quiet house every night without having to worry about a never-ending mess, and kids and his malevolent mother.



    P.S. The funny thing is his sister has said nothing. I suspect it's because her husband is her new target, but she has not sent Al one iota of vitriol. No guilt trips, no yelling, no nothing. It's been ALL Al's mom.
    Last edited by Tama; 09-25-2015, 08:01 PM.
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  • #2
    Quoth Tama View Post
    Fixing the Ford Explorer didn't work. My uncle took it and two (count 'em, FUCKING TWO!) master mechanics couldn't fix this goddamn thing!
    WTF? It should be easy to fix - just jack up the VIN plate and slide a new vehicle underneath.
    Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.

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    • #3
      How do THREE (not one, but three!) grown-ass adults not have any idea how or motivation to take care of themselves? Sounds like Al was their breadwinner so they never figured they'd have to do jack. I feel bad for the kids but you were right to cut them off. Maybe now they'll learn to take care of themselves. Necessity is the mother of getting off your lazy ass, after all.
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      • #4
        I am so proud of Al right now, Tama! I have a feeling that you moving out on him in the past is what made him change how he handles stuff with his family - if he wants to keep you in his life he needs to stop being his family's doormat.

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        • #5
          Excellent! Mom and the others are major users. Good for you and Al!
          When you start at zero, everything's progress.

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          • #6
            I'm cheering for you and Al right now.

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            • #7
              Definitely cheering! That's awesomeness! Go you guys!
              I speak English, L33t, Sarcasm and basic Idiot.

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              • #8
                Quoth AnaKhouri View Post
                How do THREE (not one, but three!) grown-ass adults not have any idea how or motivation to take care of themselves? Sounds like Al was their breadwinner so they never figured they'd have to do jack. I feel bad for the kids but you were right to cut them off. Maybe now they'll learn to take care of themselves. Necessity is the mother of getting off your lazy ass, after all.
                You answered your own question. Somebody else will take care of it, so they don't have to.


                This is great. If my parents were like that I'd just tell everyone they died in a car accident.
                Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.

                "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                • #9
                  His mother is now telling him he is just like (one of her other sons)...who apparently disappeared into the ether and no longer even tries to speak to her or any of his siblings.

                  Gee, I wonder why.



                  Unfortunately we cannot say she died in an accident. We still live in the same city as them...otherwise we would.
                  My Guide to Oblivion

                  "I resent the implication that I've gone mad, Sprocket."

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                  • #10
                    If you live relatively close to Al's family and they are not paying bills you may have to start thinking about what you are going to do if they turn up on your doorstep after getting evicted as you seem to have a spare room.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth dougall View Post
                      If you live relatively close to Al's family and they are not paying bills you may have to start thinking about what you are going to do if they turn up on your doorstep after getting evicted as you seem to have a spare room.
                      Call the cops. They're trespassing.

                      But that's what I'd do. I'm a bit of a bitch when it comes to freeloading family members.

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                      • #12
                        Quoth dougall View Post
                        If you live relatively close to Al's family and they are not paying bills you may have to start thinking about what you are going to do if they turn up on your doorstep after getting evicted as you seem to have a spare room.
                        give them the number and address of the local homeless shelter

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                        • #13
                          Actually they do not currently know where we live. We never told them the address which is, I'm sure, why his mom is yelling at him over FB instead of sending his sister and her husband over, or something.


                          She's been strangely quiet for the past day or so. I'm wondering what she has up her sleeve now...but I'm paranoid like that.
                          My Guide to Oblivion

                          "I resent the implication that I've gone mad, Sprocket."

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                          • #14
                            That's not paranoia, that's experience.

                            Tell Al we're all proud of him.

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                            • #15
                              Something to keep in mind in case they do find out where you live and turn up looking for a new place to freeload:

                              In some states, if you live in a place for a certain amount of time, it is considered legally your home, and you cannot be kicked out of it. So, with this in mind, you don't want them parking their cabooses in your houses even for a short time in case your state has a law like this (you'd want to find out what the period of time involved is).

                              Probably a long shot, but something to think about.
                              Last edited by MoonCat; 09-28-2015, 03:01 AM.
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