Exercise NOT heallthy?huh?

[Redbeard]

I don’t blame you for changing doctors one bit.

doctor I had before moving out here was an awesome Brit gal. Cute, slightly older
and had a rack you would happily take a nap on

But more importantly, she always pushed Mrs Redbeard and myself to exercise with plenty of cardio, ensure that we were eating healthy and didn't cut out essentials from our diet to help support the higher levels of increased activites.

[Aria]

Actually, they're quite correct. Exercise won't help you lose weight, mainly because it stimulates the appetite. However... exercise WILL help you keep off the weight you've lost. And if you lose 100 pounds solely from diet, with no exercise, you'll be considerably weaker at the end because some of that 100 pounds will be muscle that is no longer required to carry the extra fat.

So just exercising without fixing your diet is useless, dieting by itself works fine, but the best is dieting and exercise to keep the muscle while losing the pounds.

[Sapphire Silk]

Actually, they're quite correct. Exercise won't help you lose weight, mainly because it stimulates the appetite. However... exercise WILL help you keep off the weight you've lost. And if you lose 100 pounds solely from diet, with no exercise, you'll be considerably weaker at the end because some of that 100 pounds will be muscle that is no longer required to carry the extra fat.

So just exercising without fixing your diet is useless, dieting by itself works fine, but the best is dieting and exercise to keep the muscle while losing the pounds.

I respectfully disagree. Exercise stimulates metabolism, and muscle burns more calories just to keep the body going than fat does.

If you lose exercise solely from diet, your muscles will not have much tone because your body will break down that tissue to use as energy.

Dietary changes are required for several reasons: to make sure you eat the right things so your body does not metabolize itself to meet its energy needs, and to regulate a healthy balance of nutrients required for increased physical activity. Healthful dietary changes also change the cycle of turning food into fat, because eating healthy foods makes it easier to ensure that the foods are metabolized and burned rather than stored as fat.

Exercising without fixing your diet can make things worse if you are eating junk food, but not quite for the reasons you are thinking.

As I said, you need the combination of BOTH, and the changes need to be life long. Dieting alone is not self sustaining; if you just diet and don't exercise not only is that unhealthful, but when you stop you gain the weight back very quickly, and often add some as the body is trying to store up more fat for "lean times."

[Aria]

As I said, you need the combination of BOTH, and the changes need to be life long. Dieting alone is not self sustaining; if you just diet and don't exercise not only is that unhealthful, but when you stop you gain the weight back very quickly, and often add some as the body is trying to store up more fat for "lean times."

Yes, that's true... I forget that my definition of diet is NOT calorie restricted. I'm on the paleo diet, which means as much meat, fat and veggies as I care to eat. Nuts and fruits in moderation. So on my diet, there are no lean times, and it's shocking how quickly the fat is melting away... but with a calorie restricted diet you'd be quite right.

[Pixilated]

I've been told by a physician that no amount of diet and exercise will allow me to lose weight and my only option is bariatric surgery.

Granted, I weight quite a bit more than I should, but, I have been steadily losing the weight on my own, albeit more slowly than I would like.

Friend of mine found a new doctor and one of the first things out of his mouth during her first visit was, "If you want to lose weight, I can recommend you for stomach reduction" or whatever it's called.

No mention of diet, exercise, a combination of the two ... just "I'll get you to a surgeon!"

I think she has a different doctor now. I think I'd have turned and walked out before he finished making the offer. Yeah, I want freaking major surgery, with the loss of some fairly essential body parts, before I even try anything else to solve the problem!

This is why I'm glum about losing my longtime doctor (she's now 4 hours away by train). She would certainly prescribe meds if you needed them, but she always had an eye out for non-medicinal treatment when and where it was feasible. I'm hoping the one I just signed up with has a similar philosophy.