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  • #16
    First off, there are my paternal grandparents. I haven't seen them since before I was 10. It seems that they didn't really approve of my mother and liked my dad's first (psycho who attacked his car with an axe) wife better.

    Among their crimes are refusing to answer the phone, then complaining about lack of contact. They actually had the ringers removed from their phones so they couldn't hear them ring at all. As far as I know, they almost never made calls out. Total number of birthday/Christmas gifts for me was 5. For my brother, 3. Ignored the wedding invitation I mailed out. I didn't expect them to come, and I honestly didnt' want them there, but you'd think the snobs would have enough etiquette to return the RSVP.

    My father is an obvious product of their special brand of nurture. When he was little and they'd have their bridge club over, his job was to stay in his room and pretend he didn't exist. He was an only child. He had never witnessed a verbal disagreement between his parents in his life, so when my mother (one of the youngest in a family of 5 kids) first had a fight with him, he thought it was the end of the relationship. He never really figured out what arguments were supposed to be like; it was always the end of the relationship to him.

    My father liked to watch TV. He also liked to read the paper. He liked to do both at the same time and would not let anyone else watch anything different. This wouldn't change when he left the house. My mom didn't put up with that particular problem.

    My father would horde food. I have never understood why. He would have a family size bag of Doritos and a bag of Hershey's chocolate chips and he'd hide them so nobody else would eat any.

    My father is delusional. If he has anything in his possession for more than, say, a week, in his mind that thing would be his and he would "remember" always having it. This went for anything. He is also a champion hoarder. Several years back, we agreed to store some things for him for a while because he had no place to live. Among what we eventually discarded were empty and broken plastic bottles for things like transmission fluid, clean but ratty socks (which he never wore ), and at least one bed pan stolen from a hospital.

    Finally, my father is a speed freak who has done so much speed that he's suffered strokes, can barely speak, refuses to do anything related to work, and if you let him stay with you, he will invite all of his speed freak pals over and deal speed out of your house. We're just hoping that his parents kick it before he does so we'll at least get some of their millions. We're not holding our breath, however.

    My mother has her quirks, but she's got her head screwed on straight and raised me and my brother to be sane. I was going to say she raised us to be responsible adults, but I'm not sure yet whether it's finally stuck with my brother. He's 34, now, and I think he might have started actually acting to make his life better rather than just talking big about his plans. Now if only I could get him to give me my freaking CDs back. I'd ask for the $8k he owes me, but I know a lost cause when I have one.

    And then, there is my oldest aunt (OA). She is a piece of work. When she was a baby, she didn't like to be held. I think that was as clear a sign as you could ask for.

    OA got herself pregnant when still a teen so that she could get out of the house. Which baffles her siblings, since their home life was actually pretty decent. When her first son was still young, she divorced his father and lived on her own for a bit before marrying a second time.

    Her second marriage lasted longer, and she had two more kids, a second son and a daughter. Her husband had been of modest means, but had a drive to succeed and through frugality and hard work eventually became a millionaire. But by that time she had divorced him, too, and was spreading all sorts of stories about how badly he had treated her. He has since made an effort to be known by the family, and turns out to be a rather decent guy.

    Shortly after breaking up with husband #2, she begged my youngest aunt (my mother's twin) to let her move in with her two young children (the oldest had been kicked out at 17) in YA's apartment. For a while, all went well. Then came the police visit where the police told YA that OA had called them with reports that son #2 had nightmares and couldn't sleep because he was afraid that YA would murder them all in their beds. OA managed to manipulate things to the point where YA was kicked out of her own apartment!

    Among OA's other faults is her inability to hold a job. It's not that she can't, it's that she won't. She always quits a the first sign of any effort being required, and is always chasing after the next thing. She's also a rude, entitled, mooch. If she is allowed to stay anywhere she will set up her sewing all over every available surface, including any floor space. She will not voluntarily pick any of it up. She will also eat any food on the premises, no matter what it is, or where it is kept. This includes going into a private bedroom, rifling through drawers, and then eating the chocolate kept there. (that is what got her banned from every setting foot on son #1 and family's doorstep ever again) When she cooks, she never cleans. She will leave dishes in the sink until they grow moldy. She will also suggest to the owner of the house (whose food she is eating) that they should be the ones to clean up after her.

    At one point, OA agrees to have my brother live with her for a time as Mom was having trouble making ends meet because my father had lapsed into resource-consuming uselessness, and she hadn't yet given him the boot. Mom offered to send her some money to help cover my brother's care. OA wouldn't accept it. It turns out that OA had told the wellfare office that Mom had abandoned my brother, and she was collecting wellfare checks for taking care of him!

    Now, in the meantime, son #2 has found himself a significant other he gets along with quite well. They've gotten married, moved to another state, and he is well on the way to being a millionaire himself to avoid the wretched poverty his mother had subjected him to. He's in real estate and he's rather well suited to the job.

    OA tells Mom and YA that she needs a ride to pick up some things she left with son #2. She explains that it's all worked out, that he has an RV that they can stay in while they're there, and that it will be a short visit. Mom and YA reluctantly agree, knowing what a raving bitch OA can be. So they get things squared away and make the more-than-a-day drive to son #2's place. When they get there, son #2 expresses his surprise and incredible dismay to find OA darkening his doorstep. You see, he's actually threatened to shoot her should she show up at any place he is staying with more than an overnight bag.

    It turns out that OA not only didn't have permission to visit son #2, but that she had never contacted him about coming at all, and certain had never mentioned bringing Mom and YA. Everyone realizes that the reason she got Mom and YA to drive her there was because son #2 actually likes Mom and YA and won't throw them out, especially when it's OA's fault that they've arrived. An incredibly awkward and unpleasant time is had by all except OA who seems to either like causing trouble or is otherwise oblivious to how much strife she causes. Before they left, son #2 actually took Mom and YA aside and let them know that they were welcome to come visit any time, just so long as OA wasn't with them.

    Oh, and OA is the type of person that when she knows that someone has planned a surprise for someone else, she will preemptively break the surprise to the person it's been planned for so she can steal the thunder from the people who actually planned and worked on the surprise. She'll even tell these people that she had something to do with it, when the only thing she did was listen and then go behind their backs to spoil said surprise.

    ^-.-^
    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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    • #17
      Not bad here, though I don't know much about mine
      I've lived about 2000 Miles away from my Grandparents and other relatives since about the Age of 7.. My parents don't get along with their parents very well in general.

      My Grandparents are nice people, but its to my knowledge that they weren't very nice to my parents, same deal with their other relatives.
      - Boochan

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      • #18
        Quoth Hello Kitty View Post
        Spouse has an aunt that is literally bat shit crazy. She draws arrows on her walls and ceilings, and always complains that the hippies are out to get her.
        I imagine you could have a lot of fun with this...a little tie-dye, a long wig, some peace-symbol jewelry, and you could show up in costume and drive her crazy(er). Heheheh...

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        • #19
          Hmm, not too much sucky relatives here (I don't have much relatives, about 1 uncle, 4 second cousins, parents and brother and sister) except my Mom. She most probably has an undiagnosed case of narcissistic personal disorder and acts accordingly. I've heard it's more common amongst men but at least here it seems to affect also the female people.

          Mom's never pleased about anything. You do anything or leave anything undone, it's wrong and you hear about it. She also belittled me when I was in school (now I've been employed to a mobile/broadband provider for abt 3½ years) and I remember a couple of cases where I hurt myself and e.g. ruined my bicycle in a two-bicycle collision. Dad was at the door as I came home and took care of me, hugged me etc. but Mom just complained about me not being in school. Other similar things have happened too, but I'm lucky to have avoided any physical violence at home. The mental one - I've had therapy and think this is not just yet completely ok. I feel the need to apologise for just about everything I do or don't do, because I've been taught to not be able to do anything right.

          And my parents are warrantors for our mortgage so me and my SO need to stay in touch to some extent... Guess if we're pissed off.

          I'm just lucky I got this man to be my SO, because he's been able to lure Mom to do things she never would do if she had got the suggestion from someone else and/or in other words.
          A man can be stupid and not know it, but not if he is married.

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          • #20
            Quoth Boochan View Post
            Not bad here, though I don't know much about mine
            I've lived about 2000 Miles away from my Grandparents and other relatives since about the Age of 7..
            Pretty similar here. Immediate family (parents, 2 brothers and I) moved to Texas in 1965. Went to visit father's brother's family in Wisconsin in 1975, I went back to WI in '76 and '77 for the summers. Have not had much contact since then. Went to mother's mother's funeral in Ohio in '73; no contact since then. I know very little about any of my relatives....DH's family on the other hand.....

            Quoth wagegoth View Post
            Supposedly, several generations back, we were cousins of the James brothers. Yeah, the bank robbers. But most people in that part of the country are probably related.
            DH has a Grand Father several times removed that rode with them. DH is into geneolgy(sp?) and has found connections with Princess Diana, and George Bush.

            Personally, I'm not impressed by fame or infamy. I've known too many people in the limelights. Some are great people, but too many are a$$hole$.
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            • #21
              The worst example in my family I can think of, is my mom's sister. She's an alcoholic, and when her daughter (my cousin) and I were kids, Aunt D. was spending every spare moment she had in the local bars. All my cousin had to do to find her mom was stick her head in the door of one of the bars and say her mom's name. Now as an adult my cousin is obsessed with being a better mom than her mom was. My mom has told me some awful things Aunt D. did to her when they were younger; like the time my mom was trying to escape a violently abusive boyfriend, she packed up all her stuff and took it to Aunt D's house. Aunt D had offered to hold on to the stuff until mom was able to escape; well when mom went to get her stuff back, Aunt D pretended it never happened. She kept all mom's stuff and said she never agreed to give it back. Another time mom was trying to escape the same abusive guy, she told Aunt D about her plan to run away; Aunt D then went and TOLD mom's boyfriend that mom was planning on leaving him. Nice, huh? That night he beat mom up bad enough to send her to the Emergency Room. So much for sisterly love.

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              • #22
                Holy crap! Pardon my French, but that's just fucked up

                As goofy as my immediate family is, something like that would *not* be tolerated. In other words, you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us. Take the guy who put my grandmother in the hospital because of her car accident. My father and I have always been very protective of her. This fool would call her at night, and hang up the phone. He'd show up at the hospital to bug her, or attempt to get her to drop the lawsuit, etc. Needless to say, once we'd found out, not only did we get a restraining order, but eventually ended up seizing most of his things to pay her medical bills. He lost everything--house, truck, land...all the way down to his toothbrush.

                While that was going on, my loser uncle (who I mentioned earlier) basically ignored her. He came to visit her twice...over the year she spent in the hospital, physical therapy, nursing home, and finally back at her house. Once the lawsuit was finally settled (and she got some *serious* cash), his true colors came out. Yep, he was only interested in the cash...and started calling on a nightly basis. That didn't last--he later found out that we'd put the money in a trust for her long-term care...and quit calling or coming by. Bastard.

                ...and I should mention another sucky relative here. Oddly enough, she's on my mother's side too. (I never really knew my father's side of the family--growing up, they never got together, or anything.) Anyway, this would be my cousin H. Technically, she's my second cousin, but whatever. Anyhoo, H is just a bitch. She's usually nasty to everyone, mainly because her parents didn't discipline her. (It's actually funny...since her *daughter* is the same way, and she now bitches about how *she* acts. The circle of crap is complete...) She was always polite to me though...mainly because I beat the crap out of her when we were little ...yet was rude to everyone else.

                Some more interesting stories came out when I was in college. Several of the kids I knew had gone to high school in the same town, and knew H as well. I didn't think much about it, until I asked one of them if they knew her. The reply? "H is a bitch." They felt bad when I said H was my cousin "Oh I'm so sorry!" Me? "Don't worry about it, she *is* a bitch"

                As for my father's side, the only really sucky relative I can think of was my aunt. She managed to hide her alcoholism very well. Nobody knew, until my uncle (who is a great guy, BTW) had enough of it. He tolerated it, until about 2 years ago--they were at an awards ceremony in his honor, for his teaching at one of the universities. She got drunk off her ass, embarrassed the hell out of him, and he threw her out. It really surprised me, since she didn't seem that way.
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                • #23
                  Quoth Difdi View Post
                  I imagine you could have a lot of fun with this...a little tie-dye, a long wig, some peace-symbol jewelry, and you could show up in costume and drive her crazy(er). Heheheh...
                  That would be funny...until she stabbed you with a knife. Seriously.

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                  • #24
                    Quoth Primer View Post
                    Personally, I'm not impressed by fame or infamy. I've known too many people in the limelights. Some are great people, but too many are a$$hole$.
                    Me, either. I've run into a few, and most of them are pretty boring. The partner I work for used to live in Pacific Palisades, so she tells me what all the celebrities really look like and how short they really are.
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                    • #25
                      My family has some pretty fucked up branches.

                      I'll start with my mom's side.

                      My grandfather, while never actually abusive was a bastard. He was very controlling. My mother never had a birthday party with friends. I know it's the reason she's always so cold to people. She was never able to develope her social skills completely. Also, he was a down right bastard to my grandma. I know during the divorce he put a lock on the bedroom door (they lived together at the time; grandma slept in the guest room) and would take household items such as pans and the like and hide them in the room. One day my grandma was making dinner for her and my mom and the entire wood block with knives in it was gone. She took a hammer (surprised it hadn't been hidden ) and pried the lock off.

                      My aunt Lydia isn't a bad person, she just likes having things her way. My great-great uncle died and him and his wife (still alive but is in bad shape) were major pack rats. They have almost an acre of land that is full of sheds and even the remains of a second house that they used as storage. There are several cars on the land in varying rates of rustedness and for a long time you couldn't go anywhere inside but the basement because there was so much junk in the house. Lydia told my mom that she could take anything she wanted. There were some items that were worth a few dollars and my mom took all of the Life magazines that were salable. A few months later she anally reams my mom and complains to my grandfather about her taking the magazines and selling them for a few extra bucks. We need the money. Mom was going through a divorce and the money went towards bills. Pretty much everyone was mad at her for a few months. Also, we're pretty sure she might be manipulating my great-great aunt to leave her son and his kids a larger inheirtence than me, my mom, and brother. I hope not. Any extra money I get is going to go towards opening my own shop.

                      My father's side is a whole other story.

                      My aunt married a deadbeat who is actually the star of his family which is really saying something. Everyone including his nephew, who is my age, is on well fair. At least my "uncle" has a job. He's been real crappy to her. He was an ass to my cousins (male) until they grew larger than him. She can't divorce him because he's screwed her credit so badly and their utilities are constantly being shut off because he won't pay. Worst of all he treats her like shit. I wish she had never divorced her first husband. He had a good job and was a good guy. Yeah, he smoked a bit of pot and looked at porn, but so do alot of people and he was providing for his family. She's even admitted that those two things were the reason.

                      Now my dad's mother was a prostitute who abused my father (he got the worst of it), my aunt, and their mentally challenged older brother. They were left in her care after my grandfather died. This woman is the reason my father is the way he is. All the anger problems, the distrust of woman, and, well, everything can be traced to her. Luckily, she died when I was about eight and I never actually met her. I do remember her calling my dad at the time he was born every year.

                      The rest of the family is great. They're complete fundies, but as long as I don't talk about my views when they're around all is good. The people I call my grandparents are actually my dad's 1st cousins who took him in and other than being totally fundies they are great people. Grandpa's sisters on the other hand are bitches. There have been a few big fights in the family over land and the family ranch.

                      Now, onto my step-father.

                      My step-fathers older brother is a total loser. He's been in jail for 13 years for knocking over a bank in his neighborhood twice and is about to go back for abandoning a baby (his girlfriend's granddaughter) at his trailer, drunk driving, hitting a 12 year old and fleeing, and stealing a truck. All in the same night. This isn't even the most recent event. It's a few months old. The most recent thing is he was driving and ran a red light resulting in hitting a truck without a license in his girlfriend's car that didn't have insurance. I want to know what the hell the cops were thinking when they let the bastard go. It's his girlfriend's fault. No one was going to bail him out of jail in the family so his girlfriend took out a loan to get him out.

                      My step-dad's father is an old, stingy pervert. He bought an under ager hooker and goes to south american countries and up grades his single hotel room to the master suit. Yeah, a single old man really needs the master suit when he's in a country where he doesn't know anyone. His mother just takes it and ignores it. She's a moron. All she does is stay at home and bother her son's about what the loser brother is doing.

                      My step-brother just married a slut who's carrying a child that I doubt is his. He's 19 and she's 20 and I know the only reason she married him was because he's making pretty good money that he blows on her. He can't even pay cheap bills that are 1/3 of his weekly paycheck.
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                      • #26
                        I have a large number of relatives with personalities ranging from ...."quirky" to out and out nuts.

                        That's not sucky, but I also have a large number of relative who are pretty racist. Also, the "racist" subgroup intersects considerably with the "nuts" subgroup.

                        A lot of them don't realize that they maybe ought not throw the en word around the way they do. It really is kind of pathetic. I mean, hello, have you checked your calendar for the century?

                        I forgot about this:
                        http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1999-18.html

                        This dude?
                        My cousin.

                        I see that it says there that the family sued, which is REALLY sucky. I thought that they dropped that suit. I thought the whole thing was just ridiculous. Anyways, it's not like I'm in weekly correspondence with this particular branch of my family tree, so I don't really know how the hell all this ended up. I see my Aunt (his grandmother) off and on a bit, but this subject just hasn't come up beyond when it actually went down.
                        Last edited by RecoveringKinkoid; 03-31-2008, 05:39 AM. Reason: Geez, how could I forget this mess?

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                        • #27
                          My MIL thinks she's Mexican and is whiter than white. I can't help but giggle whenever she starts muttering barrio slang.

                          My GIL, sweet as she is, can be crazy as a bat if she's off her medication. She told my hubby "Last night, I dreamt that I took your Grandpa's machette and hacked you up so you wouldn't leave.... -sniff,bawl- but you know I wouldn't do that to you, right?!" The fact that the hubs was unphazed tells you how out of whack she is.

                          My Great-grand-father-in-law: racist biggot who would just downtalk and treat my husband like crap because he's half Mexican.

                          My Patenral Uncles: they banded together and produced/black mailed a judge upon their father's death to accept an unnotarized last will and testament that left my father pennyless. They were under the belief that my father had taken the farm from them when in reality he BOUGHT the damned thing and it *was* to be a portion of his inheritance. (Yes, he bought what was to be his anyway because Grandpa thought Mom was a gold digger... two years before he died, though, he and Dad patched thigns up, drew up another will, mentioning my Dad as his sole heir for the company.) -- Dad, however, just let them be. He didn't want to tarnish what good memories he had of his father by fighting with his sibilngs. -nod,nod-

                          My maternal auntie: she's five-feet of fury. She's been known to get into fights with strangers and HAS kicked out one of my uncles lover's out on the street. Story has it she caught them in the middle of some hot lovin' action and Auntie grabbed the woman by hair and pubes, tossed her out on the street, kicked her ass and threatened to set her on fire before turning all that rage upon my uncle. ---this is the same woman who hung a whip over her door and threaten to use it on the kids if they acted up. (Believe me, she never used it. We were all too scared to cross her.)

                          My Uncle & 3 sons: they're all grown up, ranging from 28 - 44 and they all act like goddamned 5 year olds. They pull pranks and tricks sometimes to the point of annoyance. I learned, a long time ago, not to fall asleep in their presence because I will wake up to being scared to the point of tears because when two boys shake the bed, the other walks around in the dark making orangutang noises and my uncle tosses raw, bloodied, thawed out meat yelling "IT HAS GOT YOUR HEART! YOUR HEART!" -.-

                          But believe me, they've learned not to pass out in my presence either. I have duct taped the jerks to their chairs and given them make overs (make up, dresses, permanent marker... the ocassional shaved eyebrow. O.O)
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                          • #28
                            My Mom was a childhood sexual assault victim from age 3 - 17. The various uncles and cousins who were her parents' age (45-89) did that to all the young girls in the family. One such is married to a 3rd cousin of mine, and she still denies he ever did it.
                            EDIT: Mom never went to her parnets, as one was epileptic (even music caused seizures) and the other was a typical older person who didn't believ things happened.

                            My Dad's "mother" was a drunken whore. All his life, she would get drunk ad try to sleep with her only son. She stashed her drugs in his room, told him to F*!% off from the house for a few days, and never bothered to teach him anything. She'd lock my Dad out of the house and force him to go beg at his friends' houses for food or a home for the night.

                            One such day, Dad was walking home from school (15miles) and stopped at the local bar (where he was gien free fries and a water) only to find his "mother" making out with one man, one man behind her "stopping the sewage drain," one in front with his face down there, and one of her arms over the next seat giving a handjob. Charming thing for a 10yr old to see.

                            The reason I never met her? She told my Mom n Dad that I was a random person's baby, that Mom married Dad to get the money from his military service, and that SHE was the reason he was a good man. She also constantly told people we were dying and she was collecting money for cancer (whichever one of us she named), and used the money for heroine.

                            Not to mention how she was last recorded to have six STDs that went untreated.

                            She remarried a man whose father shot himself in the head with a pistol. That man bought his parents old house, an came home one day to find Dad's "mother" in a chair. Her husband's father shot himself in the mouth, drooped to left, and thats exactly how they found her.

                            Dad's Father, who is now repentant and sorry for back then (and is a very nice Granddaddy =p), used to make him burn his own toys for not picking them up after he was done with them.


                            Eesh =/
                            Last edited by unholypet; 04-01-2008, 09:21 PM.

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                            • #29
                              My family's pretty boring in comparison to some of yours.

                              There's a decent amount of alcoholism in my family. One of my uncles married a woman whose diet consists exclusively of beer and cigarettes. She was recently in the hospital for various medical issues and they thought she might have Hepatitis. I will be shocked if she survives the year.

                              It just so happens I went to school with her daughter, and I hated her guts. At family gatherings if she tries to talk to me I just tell her "Leave me the hell alone and don't come back and say we're friends just because we're sorta related."

                              Another uncle started a drunken fight at my cousin's wedding reception, and naturally that's all people remember from that night. At least he's turned his life around.

                              Lastly there's two other uncles who are opposite ends of the political spectrum and are always trying to get each other all riled up. Family gatherings with the two of them are always eventful.
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                              "I never said I wasn't a horrible person."--Me, almost daily

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                              • #30
                                OMG, my family's normal!

                                Let's see, cousin J was into drugs ~high school but cleaned up her act & now looks after her parents.

                                Cousin B, (Mom's generation) might be crazy, I'm not certain. Last time I saw her she'd had so much plastic surgery she could just looked...odd. I mean, Joan Rivers odd.

                                Mom's dad was an alcoholic & might have beaten up Mom's mom. I'm not certain, by the time I knew them, they were at least cordial and while he drank beer I only saw him drunk a couple times.

                                Dad's dad might have beaten up his wife, but since the whole divorce each other & marry neighbors thing was weird, I don't know what was going on. Oh, and he kidnapped my dad and left dad with the grandparents as part of a custody dispute. But didn't take dad's older sister.

                                Dad's stepdad's mom might have been a prostitute. He remembers visiting her once before he went into the 1930's version of foster care (hey, anybody need an extra set of hands, there's this available 7-year-old).

                                Don't ask about Aunt D's kids. The daughter is fine but only the gay son is any good at all, and only in comparison to his brothers. His brothers are pretty much useless. And D's husband died because while she was visiting her sister, he 'felt fine and didn't take his heart medicine.'

                                See? It's all normal, petty crap.
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