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  • Self Sighting - Mental Health

    Note: This stuff is very personal, but I have nothing to hide. While I'm not proud of my outburst here, I'm proud that I am strong enough to try to deal with things that life has thrown at me. See my signature.

    I've had issues with my mental health provider people for a while now.

    The lady who gives out prescriptions laughed at me when I told her what worked in the past. I understand that she needs to make sure that I'm not some junkie trying to get high powered pills, but I wouldn't lie about my safety and sanity. Because my safety and sanity is directly linked to the safety of my daughter, who lives alone with me.

    She called out sick on THREE different days when I had appointments, even after I told her that it's VERY difficult for me to make it out to their location, so I have to plan a week in advance for every appointment.

    When I was hospitalized in March, the outreach team came to talk to me after I was finally conscious (three days), and I expressed concern that they never put down my cell phone number as well in my file so I could get my appointment reminders. The girl assured me she would file the paperwork that day to get my number changed.

    Never happened.

    Finally, on Wednesday, I had a long awaited appointment, the SECOND time since MARCH when I overdosed that my case manager was willing to see me, and he called out and they never notified me.

    This is where the self sighting came in.


    ************************************************** *

    The receptionist told me that he had called out sick. I was visibly upset, so she called out a supervisor.

    Me: I don't understand why it's been so hard for me to get treatment here. Since December, I've been trying to set up personal therapy -

    Sup: *interrupts me* There is a waiting list a couple months long.

    Me: You know, if Case Manager had told me that, I'd understand, but he didn't. He told me to expect a call from the assigned therapist within a week. This has been since DECEMBER. And your prescription writer has hardly been in. And now Case Manager is gone. You guys are in charge of MENTAL HEALTH. Do you think that flexibility in a routine for someone with serious mental issues is an option?

    Sup: People get sick. I can't help the fact that you have some disease, and my employees can't help it if they come down with something.

    Me: I understand that. But I've expressed my concern that I can't get all the way out here that easily, so when I make an appointment, I have to be seen. If this had happened once or twice before, yeah okay, but Case Manager never even called me after I overdosed. I had to have advocates try for DAYS to get a hold of him. How is that managing my health?

    Sup: All I can tell you is to make an appointment for next week and hope he's in.

    Me: I shouldn't have to HOPE that my DOCTOR who is PAID to help me get my head on straight feels it's appropriate to come into work. I should be able to rely on that. Why do you expect ME to come in whenever you feel like coming in, but you don't expect your own employees to show up at work? How is that fair?

    This is where I started crying.

    Ultimately, I ended up making a tentative appointment for Monday. I felt bad for losing control, but I've had a hell of a time getting seen by these people, and I really don't have the option of NOT being seen. My grades are slipping, my physical health is slipping, my relationships are failing...I really need more help than once every 3 months or so.

    : /

    I'm sorry.

  • #2
    I am so sorry for you!!! Your doctor and the staff sound like horrible, uncaring dolts. Is there any way to change doctors? I applaud you for being able to hold on thru all that bad treatment. Health care professionals should ALWAYS care about their patients and treat them with compassion and dignity.

    I sure hope you get the treatment and appointments that you deserve, and that you have a much better few days. Please keep us informed, if there's one thing this Board is good at, it is caring about each other!

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    • #3
      You've got nothing at all to be sorry about, and the doctors ought to think themselves lucky as they got away so lightly. It is not unreasonable to expect someone to do their job.

      I also hope they manage to pull their fingers out and that you get the treatment you deserve. We're all here if you need a sympathetic ear.
      "I'll probably come round and steal the food out of your fridge later too, then run a key down the side of your car as I walk away from your house, which I've idly set ablaze" - Mil Millington

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      • #4
        Is there a mental health advocate in your city or county?

        Call them, relate your story - with DATES and FACTS - and see if they can help you. That's their job - to help cut red tap.

        Look up Ombudsman or Advocate in your city or county. Start there.

        And DO NOT let people run you over. You are strong. You take care of YOU.

        Cutenoob
        In my heart, in my soul, I'm a woman for rock & roll.
        She's as fast as slugs on barbituates.

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        • #5
          You are not the suck here. They are.

          I hope you get the help you should be getting.
          "Do not quibble with me over apostrophes. I have my shit together when it comes to apostrophes." - BookBint

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          • #6
            where do you go to school? my school (a university) has an awesome mental health staff, the best i've ever been with. i know how bad most people who deal with mental health are - i was once sent to the er for being suicidal, but the er sent me home saying "if you really were suicidal, you would've already done it" or something to that effect. didn't go well over with my mom (i was maybe 21, 22 at the time)
            To err is human, to blame someone else shows good management skills.

            my blog --> http://www.hendrices.com/joesblog/
            my brother's blog --> http://www.hendrices.com/ryansblog/

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            • #7
              You have NO reason to be sorry. I have mental health issues myself and it is nothing to take so lightly. If I'm off my meds for even a bit, I just CANNOT function right. Is there another mental health provider you can see?
              wouldn't lube work better in a f***ing machine?
              ----
              Yes, that’s right. It’s a pair of gold foil headphones. Gold foil. Finally, headphones just as awful as your taste in music.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the support everyone. I just figured I shouldn't have brought up the "It's his JOB" line.

                I could TRY going to a different office through the same company thing (Sound Mental Health) but getting a referral might be difficult because apparently some offices provide different types of counseling and I was referred to the office I go to for a reason.

                I hope I can switch. I'll be discussing it on Monday with my advocate. Because this is ridiculous. Right now, I'm taking leftover pills from my overdose in March to control my anxiety even though they mess with my heart and lungs because no one will meet with me to give me the new kind.

                It's frightening. I'll be posting here after my rescheduled appointment with my case manager if he gives me any flack about making a scene.

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                • #9
                  Quoth SorryIsGoodEnough View Post
                  Right now, I'm taking leftover pills from my overdose in March to control my anxiety even though they mess with my heart and lungs because no one will meet with me to give me the new kind.
                  I know I don't have to tell you to be careful, so good luck. That is a serious risk and your "doctor" should be taking it as one.
                  wouldn't lube work better in a f***ing machine?
                  ----
                  Yes, that’s right. It’s a pair of gold foil headphones. Gold foil. Finally, headphones just as awful as your taste in music.

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                  • #10
                    Nyx,

                    My best friend has severe mental health problems, and some of my disabilities have neurochemical symptoms. I say this to let you know that I know where you're coming from.

                    One (just one!) of our bad experiences was in an ER waiting room. She was hysterical, and managing it well - sitting down, holding my hands, and crying quietly. Oh, sure, she was clearly crying, and clearly not 'right'. But we were as off to one side as we could manage, she was sitting down politely, we weren't a threat to anyone.

                    And some #(&$-#(@& triage nurse came over and had the audacity to tell her - not ask her, TELL her - that she was distressing some of the other patients and she HAD to stop crying. Right now.

                    WHAT?!

                    My friend tried to explain (and I had to 'interpret') that she was mentally ill, and it's not as easy as that. That she was already doing her best....

                    *sighs*
                    Well, I wouldn't be mentioning this story if she said 'oh, okay', or moved us to a quieter place where we wouldn't disturb anyone, or anything sensible like that.

                    ...

                    ... and a different episode, where another 'expert' told my friend that "oh, everyone who has bipolar says meds help them, but all they need is a few years of psychotherapy and they'll be fine".
                    That was a fragment of a "you aren't trying hard enough" speech. I'm sure you've had enough of those to last you a lifetime, Nyx.



                    Unfortunately, mental health is still such a 'new' field of study that people just don't know how to react properly. Even experts.

                    And even experts don't seem to understand how damned difficult life can be for those with neurochemical or brain-anatomy defects. So they treat their/our quirks and failings as failure of willpower, not symptoms of a problem.

                    Or they treat them/us as children.

                    My best friend and I would love to find a respite care place where we could go once a month or so, give our carer a day off. But everywhere we can find, they're going to treat us like we're intellectual infants who can't plan our own day or do our own thing.
                    Sorry, but I'd rather be writing a screenplay than fingerpainting, thanks so much. I just need someone who can help me if my body fails me, and supervise my best friend's meds. Yes, she's the one making a 'mood board' for her next clothing design. No, she doesn't need to be fingerpainting either.


                    .... so yeah, I TOTALLY agree with you, Nyx. And no, you weren't in any way out of order. The staff at that hospital/clinic/whatever needed to hear that.
                    Seshat's self-help guide:
                    1. Would you rather be right, or get the result you want?
                    2. If you're consistently getting results you don't want, change what you do.
                    3. Deal with the situation you have now, however it occurred.
                    4. Accept the consequences of your decisions.

                    "All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools." - Anders, Dragon Age.

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                    • #11
                      I agree with everyone else, you have no reason to feel sorry. It IS the doctor's job to make sure you get your prescriptions on time.

                      I feel bad for you all who have had such hard time with getting help, like mental issues and asking for help isn't hard enough already! I have mental health problems myself but been apparently very lucky with doctors etc. Help is always just one phone call away for me. It should be like that for everyone.

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                      • #12
                        My doctor called me yesterday and I didn't get the message til today.

                        He said, "To set the record straight, you didn't show up for four appointments, so it's something we both need to work on."

                        LIES. LIES. LIES.

                        The only appointment I ever set up with him that didn't happen was THIS LAST ONE. I CANCELLED two appointments I had set up with the prescription writer because I couldn't make it every week, and I told them that.

                        He's such a liar. Unless they made appointments without consulting me and then neglected to give me my reminder call and then labeled me as a no-show.

                        So, either I've completely lost my mind, or he's just trying to cover his ass because his supervisor got onto him about calling out with me. I'm furious. If he doesn't give a shit about my care, fine. But don't lie about me to myself. I don't deserve that.

                        At the end of the call, he said, "Please don't make this more difficult than it has to be. Remember, I AM in contact with your case manager at *Where I Live, Transitional Apartment Complex For People Waiting for Section 8*, and also with your probation officer."

                        Is...is that a threat?

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                        • #13
                          ...whoa. That does sound like a threat.

                          On Monday, get copies of your appointment history from the office. NOT from your doctor, but from one of the receptionists. Check it against your own records. Question any differences.

                          This is NOT acceptable.
                          EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS CANCER AND MADNESS. (Gravekeeper)
                          ~-~
                          Also, I have been told that I am sarcastic. I don’t know where anyone would get such an impression.(Gravekeeper again)

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                          • #14
                            Dear lord, if this is where I'm thinking it is...

                            Remember a certain city in the Northwest is great, if you're a "liberal" yuppie with prozak issues, but heavens forbid you have something real.

                            *me bitter nooooooooooo*

                            and yes that IS a threat, might want to do what was said above and hope you get one of the good ones... if you have to go through the state in that certain city.

                            Like I said, not bitter at all.

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                            • #15
                              Bunnyboy, yup, I live in Redmond, WA and go to the Bellevue, WA office of SMH.

                              >_< Stupid King County RAWR.

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