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  • #31
    Quoth Gurndigarn View Post
    Depends on how abusive it is, and how it's done. Saying racist things in general isn't a crime. Saying them in such a way that it can be considered assualt (IE, "personal terrorism") is a crime.
    I think for the most part making generalizations about a certain group of people is not really a crime, for example if you say all black people are criminal scum.

    HOWEVER, if you make strong, hurtful, slurs and negative comments towards a certain person or a defined group of people (for example going around telling people Target doesn't want any n----rs in their stores or continually harassing the same person with ethnic slurs) that causes them harm it's a crime.

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    • #32
      Quoth Jacen View Post
      OMG BeckySunshine... Where do you people find all those cool smilies?
      Most of them come from...here, actually.

      The one I posted above comes from freesmilies.org
      Unseen but seeing
      oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
      There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
      3rd shift needs love, too
      RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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      • #33
        Quoth Jacen View Post
        Racism over here can result in tens of thousands of dollars fine. Does America not have similar penalties?
        You can pretty much say anything you want as long as it isn't likely to bring about physical violence, or a stampede from a theater.
        Proud to be a Walmart virgin.

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        • #34
          Quoth Mark Healey View Post
          You can pretty much say anything you want as long as it isn't likely to bring about physical violence, or a stampede from a theater.
          And for that matter, if one just declares hatred for a particular race, and someone from that race punches them in the face, the puncher would be arrested for assault.

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          • #35
            Wow... no offense to you Americans, but I'm glad I don't live there then...

            From my (limited) understanding of Australian law, a verbal attack can be considered as bad as a physical attack.

            Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread a little.
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            • #36
              Quoth Shengirl View Post
              And for that matter, if one just declares hatred for a particular race, and someone from that race punches them in the face, the puncher would be arrested for assault.
              well, it is "Freedom OF Speech" not "Freedom FROM Speech".

              Besides, I find the term "Cracker" to be very offensive, but do you see the ACLU or NAACP doing anything about it?
              "We go through our careers and things happen to us. Those experiences made me what I am."-Thomas Keller

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              • #37
                Quoth FuzzyKitten99 View Post
                Besides, I find the term "Cracker" to be very offensive, but do you see the ACLU or NAACP doing anything about it?
                I think the term itself is absurd, but the attitude behind it is what bugs me. 'Course, I could start a discussion about racism from non-white persons, but in this forum community, that's preaching to the choir. Just about everyone here, of every race, has had the race card pulled on them in one fashion or another!

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                • #38
                  Quoth Shengirl View Post
                  And for that matter, if one just declares hatred for a particular race, and someone from that race punches them in the face, the puncher would be arrested for assault.
                  true. In the UK, the punchee (possibly wrong term but never mind) might well find themselves on the wrong end of a prosecution for incitement to racial hatred or using language likely to cause a breach of the peace. Its the nearest thing we've got to a serves'em right law.
                  A person who is nice to you, but not nice to the waiter is not a nice person
                  - Dave Barry

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                  • #39
                    Quoth Mark Healey View Post
                    You can pretty much say anything you want as long as it isn't likely to bring about physical violence, or a stampede from a theater.
                    "The right to free speech stops short of shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded theater."
                    --Mark Twain
                    Unseen but seeing
                    oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                    There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                    3rd shift needs love, too
                    RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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                    • #40
                      Quoth FuzzyKitten99 View Post
                      Besides, I find the term "Cracker" to be very offensive, but do you see the ACLU or NAACP doing anything about it?
                      What exactly does this term mean?
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                      • #41
                        Quoth Jacen View Post
                        OMG BeckySunshine... Where do you people find all those cool smilies?
                        There is also a plug-in for firefox called Smiley Xtra.


                        Oh and BeckySunshine I think this evil smiley fits you better.


                        p.s. Since there is a waiting list for the wood chipper, I think we should bring these in.



                        I'm tolerant of everyone and everything except for assholes. - Mongo Skruddgemire

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                        • #42
                          Quoth Hon'ya-chan View Post

                          Things are going smooth, until I begin to get her change.

                          SC: "Do not give me any ones that wetback gave you."
                          Me:
                          SC: "You heard me. Don't give me any dollar bills that wetback gave you!"
                          Me: "What wetback?"
                          SC: "That wetback that was in front of me!"
                          I've been through something similar, a couple of times. To the point where I have just had it putting up with nonsense from bigoted, should-have-been-aborted wastes of flesh and blood. At the first utterance of the word "wetback", I would have put on my light, wordlessly walked over to the nearest Manager, and handed the customer off to them. I won't serve bigots, but I will tell them where to go.
                          Herewith, a nugget of wisdom from the very wise Mike Brady: "Alone, we can only move buckets. But if we work together, we can drain rivers."

                          --
                          mannabozo.wordpress.com

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                          • #43
                            Quoth marlovino View Post
                            There is also a plug-in for firefox called Smiley Xtra.
                            Opera user. But I think I'll install Firefox just to browse forums with... That plugin/addon sounds fun.
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                            • #44
                              Quoth Jacen View Post
                              Wow... no offense to you Americans, but I'm glad I don't live there then...
                              Yeah, well, keep in mind that the ability to state what you believe without needing to worry about the law has been an important part in quite a bit of good, including the US civil rights movement. Which probably would have been outlawed in places if they could have done so.

                              Quoth Jacen View Post
                              From my (limited) understanding of Australian law, a verbal attack can be considered as bad as a physical attack.
                              Well, if it's an attack (directed at an individual), that can be considered assault, which is a crime. It's general racist sayings that aren't.

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                              • #45
                                Quoth marlovino View Post
                                Oh and BeckySunshine I think this evil smiley fits you better.
                                I like it!!!!!!
                                Unseen but seeing
                                oh dear, now they're masquerading as sane-KiaKat
                                There isn't enough interpretive dance in the workplace these days-Irv
                                3rd shift needs love, too
                                RIP, mo bhrionglóid

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