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  • #31
    Quoth Raieth View Post
    I certainly wouldn't make a big fuss, But if a store EVER asks me to hand over my ID so they can scan it, I politely leave my items and leave. In canada we have laws about how many HOURS they are allowed to keep that information, but it's not regulated to well. And there have been many tales of identity theft that started with the info that registers take.
    How? I can't see that happening here, as social security # isn't listed anywhere on an ID. I don't know what kind ov info's listed on a Canadian license.
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    • #32
      Quoth Ironclad Alibi View Post
      Did the douche not know what "or" means?
      He's was/is an idiot hick. We went to the same university, which pisses me off no end because he makes the rest of us look bad.
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      • #33
        I also am one of the people that will not let them scan my I.D. If I am buying alcohol or such, they can see it to verify my birthday, but absolutely no scan of the barcode. To say, "We don't keep any of your info...," then why do you need to scan it? Type in my birthdate, get a manager, or I can just put the stuff back and leave.
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        • #34
          Quoth MrTim View Post
          If I am buying alcohol or such, they can see it to verify my birthday, but absolutely no scan of the barcode. To say, "We don't keep any of your info...," then why do you need to scan it? Type in my birthdate, get a manager, or I can just put the stuff back and leave.
          They need to scan it because some suit back at corporate was sold some fancy computer program that will, theoretically, save the company time by not having to have the clerks actually read anything on the IDs themselves.

          You're going to find that over time, every location is going to start using these programs and you're either going to have to do without or find someone else who doesn't care one way or the other (like me) and will buy it for you (not like me).

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          • #35
            Quoth MrTim View Post
            I also am one of the people that will not let them scan my I.D. If I am buying alcohol or such, they can see it to verify my birthday, but absolutely no scan of the barcode. To say, "We don't keep any of your info...," then why do you need to scan it? Type in my birthdate, get a manager, or I can just put the stuff back and leave.
            Why? Use some fucking logic. How about that? Hmm? If you ever worked in a business that requires you to check ID, you will see quickly just how good people can alter their birthday so that they can buy beer and get into bars. The barcode, is just your birthday. That is it. The Day/Month/Year. It doesn't have your address, (Cause really, when you alter your address, its a goddamn sticker you put on most of the time). It doesn't have your weight or height, it doesn't even have you fucking gender. Are you really, so fucking paronoid to belive that companies would spend the kind of money, to store 307,006,550 (Thats THREE HUNDRED MILLION, SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) different barcodes? That wouldn't be confused with say, a six pack of coke, or a candy bar? HMMMM? It would be much much more easily programmable to store 25550, of which most wouldn't matter since newborns don't typically get IDs, to account for all the different birthdays from today to 1940. (A decent year were one wouldn't be carded....).

            I mean my god. To what cost? Why oh dear god what makes you fucking think that stores do that? To store your /info/ for what!? I knew a good chunk of customers are dumb, but people here, to belive that?

            The birthday shown is easy to alter. The barcode for birthday is not.
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            • #36
              Yeah still scratching my head on why people think that scanning their birthdate means storing their info.

              I mean has big brother got people paranoid that much?
              Take this job and shove it. I ain't workin here no more.

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              • #37
                Seriously, if you're that paranoid about people scanning the barcode on your license (which carries practically nothing, compared to the magnetic stripe), just damage it.

                Damaged barcode = will never be scanned = nobody is a douche to some poor clerk stuck between clueless corporate bigwigs and tinfoil-hat customers.

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                • #38
                  Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                  Seriously, if you're that paranoid about people scanning the barcode on your license (which carries practically nothing, compared to the magnetic stripe), just damage it.

                  Damaged barcode = will never be scanned = nobody is a douche to some poor clerk stuck between clueless corporate bigwigs and tinfoil-hat customers.

                  ^-.-^
                  Good chunk of my customers do that. The ones that are assholes to my coworkers and/or me I refuse cause their ID's don't scan, which is our policy. The nice ones get bday put in.


                  BTW: Andara... uh... anychance that your a fangirl of me? I'm curious. For... study purposes.
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                  • #39
                    Good to finally know the actual reason behind the scanning of the ID.

                    I don't even think I'd stress if the scan did produce my current address and other things, I mean, so many people probably already know it. Perhaps they can come visit me. I get lonely.

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                    • #40
                      Quoth Plaidman View Post
                      BTW: Andara... uh... anychance that your a fangirl of me? I'm curious. For... study purposes.
                      ... what kind of perks come with being a member of your fanclub...

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                      • #41
                        Quoth Andara Bledin View Post
                        ... what kind of perks come with being a member of your fanclub...

                        ^-.-^
                        Free foot massuage. I will attempt to beat whomever you want, (thought they will beat me more likely) A friend for life. I will also text ya alot if we exhange numbers. Ask Jester, Shroo, Food Lady, BlaqueKatt for details. Oh, and yeah. I'll totally be your bitch .
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                        • #42
                          Quoth Plaidman View Post
                          Free foot massuage. I will attempt to beat whomever you want, (thought they will beat me more likely) A friend for life. I will also text ya alot if we exhange numbers. Ask Jester, Shroo, Food Lady, BlaqueKatt for details. Oh, and yeah. I'll totally be your bitch .
                          You had me at free footrubs!

                          I don't do texting, but I'm on Facebook just about daily.
                          (use my username without a space to find me)

                          ^-.-^
                          Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                          • #43
                            Quoth Plaidman View Post
                            The barcode, is just your birthday. That is it. The Day/Month/Year. It doesn't have your address, (Cause really, when you alter your address, its a goddamn sticker you put on most of the time). It doesn't have your weight or height, it doesn't even have you fucking gender.
                            I do not work for any state department or such. You are wrong about the barcode only containing the birthday. That wierd barcode contains all the written text as on the front of the license including license number, address... and anything else the state has requested. Now depending on the setup of your barcode scanner or the program that the data gets read into - that might or might not show all the data. The easiest way to verify a digital license would be if it included a watermark.... I do not want to start a debate about this, I just happen to know about this.

                            As for stores scanning and saving data - that is all up to state legislatures. Talk to them or your congress people to get it changed.

                            (If you have access to a capable barcode scanner attached to a PC - open up Notepad or a word processor and then scan your license. It will show you all the data that your barcode scanner is reading from a license. All states might not put all data there)
                            Last edited by Ree; 03-28-2010, 07:15 AM. Reason: Trimmed quote

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                            • #44
                              http://www.1011now.com/news/headlines/82569557.html
                              Quoth 1011Now.com
                              Nebraska is the only state in the country that doesn't allow merchants to scan the bar codes on your driver's licenses. That could change soon.

                              Maneuvering the halls of Nebraska's Capitol, Jerry O'Connor is hand delivering his concerns for a bill that's making its way through the legislature. O'Connor says he's never taken such personal action but he fears the bill could cost him his privacy if passed.

                              The bill would allow store clerks to scan and store two pieces of information from the bar code of your driver's license -- your license number and your age. Both are already on the front of the card.

                              Senator Kent Rogert of Tekamah introduced the legislation last year. Rogert says the system would help keep alcohol and tobacco from being sold to minors -- making it easier to detect fake i.D.'s. Opponents of the bill say it's an invasion of privacy that could lead to identity theft.

                              Any employee or business that misused the information would be charged with a felony. But for O'Connor...*that's* not enough reassurance.
                              Last edited by Ree; 03-28-2010, 07:14 AM. Reason: Fixed quote reference

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                              • #45
                                Quoth Plaidman View Post
                                Are you really, so fucking paronoid to belive that companies would spend the kind of money, to store 307,006,550 (Thats THREE HUNDRED MILLION, SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) different barcodes?
                                Ok, logic works for me. I did a basic txt file containing:
                                12/12/2000
                                John Smith
                                12345 street
                                12345 City State
                                Saved, the file total is roughly 1kb.
                                1kb = 9.536743164062E-7 which is very small.

                                So 1Gb = 1,048,576kb, and your number of 307,006,550 would mean that it would require 1 hard drive with about 300Gb worth of space. Now, do I think a massive corporate company would spend $50.00 (typical cost for a drive that size) to keep all that info? Well, yeah - I do. But hey, thanks for launching a bunch of swear words and false accusations saying I am dumb.
                                Last edited by Ree; 03-28-2010, 07:12 AM. Reason: Trimmed quote
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