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What's to stop you from coming in on your next scheduled shift the amount of time you stayed over? Worked an hour over? Come in an hour later... I'm assuming mall stores (except for Chik-Fil-A) all have to be open at a set time. if that's the case, come in for an hour or however long you stayed, punch in, keep the doors or gates closed, and do whatever you want until the store is scheduled to open. This way you still get legally paid for the hours you put in but you're righting the wrong that the company refuses to acknowledge.
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Quoth HermitIX View PostYou really shouldn’t get piercing at the mall. The gun is unsanitary and it rips a hole in your ear which makes it more prone to scar when it heals. It is best to get it done at a tattoo place with a needle. It heals faster and cleaner.
Also WTF an infant?
If my company ever did something like this, I'd gleefully hand them my bills and stuff and tell them to pay it. If the girl was going to stay over for something, she should get paid for it. The customers also shouldn't have waited until the last minute to do something that they should know takes a while.Eh, one day I'll have something useful here. Until then, have a cookie or two.
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Just a note from your friendly neighborhood mod team...
I know we're all full of moral outrage at this but it seems we're all focusing on something that didn't actually happen. Reread the OP and the OP's follow up. No laws were broken. She IS getting paid for staying over. She's not expected to work for free.
However, she WILL be sent home early or asked to come in late for her next shift to make sure her hours for the week don't go over what is allowed by the fools she works for. Which sucks in multiple ways, but isn't illegal or denying her wages for her hours worked. Again, nobody's expecting her to work off the clock.
Also, we don't need to turn this into a fratching debate about the merits of various means of piercing or piercing infants/toddler (in case anyone is thinking of going there).The best karma is letting a jerk bash himself senseless on the wall of your polite indifference.
The stupid is strong with this one.
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Yet another great reminder of why I love the management I work with so very much.
Quoth Fire_on_High View PostI don't get why a kid would be thrashing and fussing. I remember when I got my ears pierced...I'd wanted it very badly for a long time, so the last thing I would have done was fuss, and frankly it didn't hurt much at all!
Quoth LillFilly View PostPS - the kid getting pierced was an infant.Quoth LillFilly View PostAnd people often get their baby's pierced; I think they should wait till they're older, but I guess the parents want them to be able to wear jewelry right away.
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I almost got a job at...um "Blaire's" once, and I told them that as a tattoo and piercing enthusiast, I was not entirely comfortabe with piercing young kids, or the use of guns, as I've alway been pierced with single-use needles. The manager actually managed to alleviate my concerns considerably by showing me the new "gun" they now use- not sure if its used in the US yet, but its easier to operate than a gun, doesn't make the horrible CLACK noise that can make kids jump, and causes less damage to the tissue as the sharp part is push through the cartilidge using pressure directed from the piercer's own fingers. She also said it was more hygenic than the older guns. I felt much better about it, but I was still unkeen on piercing babies. I kept that to myself; I wanted the chance at the job. I only didn't get the job on hours in the end. Personally, I would still recommend going to a proper piercer, but its good to know standards are improving (and they provide good aftercare, providing the kids with little bottles of solution to clean their ear lobes with).
I think that's really unfair though, as the OP said, the employee is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. And what kinda bright spark think its a great idea to get their kids' ears pierced that late in the day anyway? >.<Last edited by Dips; 04-25-2011, 02:14 PM.
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I got my ears pierced at "Blaire's" when I was about 12ish. It didn't hurt too bad, but both of the piercings got infected. The back of one earring ended up getting stuck to my ear due to dried blood encasing it. What I did that I should not have done was dig the stuck pieces off, clean the piercings as best I could, and put earrings back in. I'd be damned if I was going to do that shit again.
They turned out just fine and now I stick all manner of things in those piercings...safety pins, paper clips, sometimes more than one earring because I can't decide which pair I want to wear. But if ever I get anything else pierced (and I do want more holes in my ears and maybe my face), I'm going to a tattoo/piercing parlor. I'm not using the communal needle gun at a pre-teen fashion store.
Still though, you've got to be made of 100 percent asshole to waltz into a store as the place is closing and ask for a service like piercing, especially on someone who is going to be thrashing and screaming for an hour. It's too bad piercing services couldn't be stopped 15 minutes before closing, like how a library might turn off their computers 15 minutes before they lock up for the day.
(But Blaire's does have some neat stuff otherwise. I can't bash them too badly since I do shop there a few times a year for jewelry. )
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Quoth HermitIX View PostYou really shouldn’t get piercing at the mall. The gun is unsanitary and it rips a hole in your ear which makes it more prone to scar when it heals. It is best to get it done at a tattoo place with a needle. It heals faster and cleaner.
Also WTF an infant?I don't get paid enough to kiss your a**! -Groezig 5/31/08
Another day...another million braincells lost...-Sarlon 6/16/08
Chivalry is not dead. It's just direly underappreciated. -Samaliel 9/15/09
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My little girl had a bit of a fit when she got her ears pierced... not because of the piercing, but because she was being held down. Once she got let up she was instantly quiet and happy again. It never bugged her otherwise. She got it done in a mall (locally known as the hall, yes it is a very small one). No infections and no problems.
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Hey guys!
Just a friendly reminder: Lets keep this about the butthead customers keeping employees late and try to stay away from who should and shouldn't have piercings and also at what age.
Thanks!"So, if you wanna put places like that outta business, just stop being so rock-chewingly stupid." ~ Raudf, 9/19/13
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Quoth Lots42 View PostIn many places said policy is outright illegal. I hope whomever is responsible for it is punished extremely.Labor boards have info on local laws for free
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Quoth Jester View PostThe answer to this was in the OP:
Quoth wagegoth View PostYes, an employee has to be paid for the time they worked, unless they're on a salary, instead of hourly.
Which is a suck in and of itself, but, again, as noted, this is not illegal.
^-.-^Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden
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Actually, I can see where a company, if an employee has to work more time one shift, would deduct that amount from another to even things out. The employee isn't really losing any time, as it equals out to the same amount if they hadn't had to work late, and it doesn't cost the company extra money. However, if the company has a policy where an employee must stay late to accommodate customers, then it must be accepted that in those cases, closing will take longer or at least be later than normal at no fault of said employee.
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