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  • Hi, I've only been a Mac for three hours. (long and ranty)

    Crowning achievement of human intelligence here, ladies and gentlemen. I found someone too stupid to use something designed to be quick, easy and efficient. That's going to be the crowner for this thread, though. First...


    Tryin' to tell ya now, it's SABOTAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! Dun-dun-dundundun-duuun--

    No individual story here, but a collection of them, and they all go the same way: the members that call in fitting this generalization all have one thing in common: they believe that when they switched over to the ISP I work for, we pretty much fucked their systems up somehow. Just a heads-up here:

    1) We're only bringing the signal into your house. By plugging our equipment into your computer, the only thing that changes is the fact that you're being connected to the rest of the world. That should be the only thing that changes, and if something else happens because of it, you might want to get your computer checked for viruses.

    2) Speaking of viruses, that trojan disguised as an antivirus program? We hate that fucking bug so much. Why in the world would we put it on your computer when it prevents us from doing any-fucking-thing to troubleshoot what's keeping you offline? For that matter, why would we sabotage your computer just for the sake of having you call a service that's free?

    3) Why is your kid hitting a random button or seventeen on your remote our fault? We're a cable company, not a babysitting service! If you can't learn the essential child-rearing phrase 'No, no, no, put that down, sweetie, that's not a toy,' then we can't claim any liability.

    Okay, enough ranting about that. I hope I made my point.


    You, uh... do realize I'm Socialist, right?

    Another fun one. One of the guy's cable boxes just... kept on cutting out MSNBC at random. Now, I'm still learning about the ins-and-outs of the boxes themselves, but a single channel cutting out on one of three cable boxes in the house just means that the one needs to be switched out for a new one. We all know who the real culprit is, however...

    Me: "Thank you for calling <provider!> This is Zed with tech support; how may I help you today?"
    SC: "Yeah, I ain't been getting MSNBC to stay on one of my boxes for the past couple of months."

    That's right, folks, he'd waited two whole months to call in about this. I'm still trying to figure out if the tinfoil hat might've been on too tight.

    SC: "It didn't bother me before, but now it's starting to get annoying, because I haven't been able to see a full episode of <I forget which show it was> for that long. I just wanna know how many ultra-conservatives you have working for <provider>, because there's no way any liberals would try to censor my shows."
    Me: "..."
    SC: "Now, I dunno whether you're liberal or not, but trying to keep me from watching one of my shows is just un-American."

    Hearing that just gave me an all-new respect for Glenn Beck. Anyone whose die-hard fans make this guy look like he got his GED is worth some degree of props...

    Me: "I'm really not the type to talk about my political leanings on shift, to be honest."
    SC: "And another thing--"

    Wait, there was a second complaint? Oh fuck.

    SC: "--I was going through your automatic system and it gave me a choice to keep going in Spanish. Now, I take offense to that because I'm first-generation Russian, and I think if you're gonna offer it in Spanish, you should offer it in other languages like French, German, Italian, Korean..."

    I'll spare you guys the rest of the details, but I should mention that this guy's accent was nowhere near Russian and more near Redneck. I was sorely tempted to pull up Google Translate and tell him "Приветствую вас, товарищ! Ваш английский на самом деле не бывает!" ("Greetings, comrade! Your English is indeed superb!") if I could actually pronounce that. I'm not even sure that translation's grammatically correct.

    I'll chop the rest of that rant out, because Fratching is rearing its head right now. Fast-forward to the actual troubleshooting roughly fifteen minutes later.

    Me: "Okay, so to recap, you not only have one channel going out on one of your cable boxes, but you also wish to file a discrimination complaint against the company for catering to illegal aliens?"

    Face it, there's no other way to bottom-line his list of concerns. I felt dirty just typing that last part, let alone saying it.

    SC: "That's right."
    Me: "Okay, and you've been rebooting that one box every time the channel goes out and it brings it back up temporarily, but goes out again?"
    SC: "You got it."
    Me: "But that channel itself only disappears on the one box; it comes in on the other two in the house?"
    SC: "That's right. I can see it on the other two TVs, but it's an inconvenience for me to have it go out on the TV I watch the most."

    Yeah, I had both of those thoughts, too. And they switched back and forth between "Why didn't you just switch the cable boxes?" and "hate that fucking word hate hate hate hate hate!"

    Me: "Then all we need to do is put in a request to get that box switched out--"
    SC: "You mean I gotta pay for someone to bring a box out and just hook it up?! What kind of--"
    Me: "Actually, Mr. <customer>, both options are free. The first one is that we ship a new box out to you, you hook it up yourself and send the old one back in the box the new one arrives in. The other is, yes, sending a technician out to install it for you. Both options are free of charge, but while having the tech come out is faster, shipping the box to you is more convenient."
    SC: "......................"
    Me: "Mr. <customer>?"
    SC: "............okay, I'll just have it shipped to me. How long's it gonna take?"
    Me: "Just a moment. I'll get the order put in for it."

    The following Monday. Expecting to be missing everything north of my tongue from the reaction, I tell him so.

    SC: "Well, that's okay, then. Just as long as it gets here."
    Me: "Okay. And as far as the corporate complaint goes, I can pull up the address to mail your concern to. We don't have a number to give out to our members to contact Corporate directly for safety reasons."
    SC: "Oh, that's okay. I'm just glad someone there was willing to listen to me bitch."

    The thought of this guy having drinking buddies scares the living Christ outta me.


    At least he admitted he was a noob to Macs...

    This is the one that made me want to stop at a bar on the way home and drain my checking account.

    Me: "Thank you for calling <provider!> This is Zed with tech support; how may I help you today?"
    SC: "Yeah, I can't get into my email. I just signed on with <provider> and I'm just getting used to using it."
    Me: "Oh, okay. I can definitely help you with that. First I gotta ask you some questions about the computer you're using so I can help you a lot more effectively. What kind of computer are you using?"
    SC: "It's a Macintosh. I just bought it."
    Me: "Not a problem. And what browser are you using to try to get into your email?"
    SC: "Safari."

    Roadblock. I'm Googling the website for Safari the very microsecond I hear that.

    Me: "Alright. All you have to do is type in 'www.ouremailserver.com' and log in using your <provider> user name and password.'
    SC: "Where do I type that in?"

    *eyetwitch* Uh...

    Me: "Just type that into the address bar."
    SC: "I'm typing it and nothing's happening."
    Me: "Did you click on the address bar before typing it in?"
    SC: "I thought I did. Was it supposed to do something?"
    Me: "................................"

    Mute phone, remove headset, headdesk hard enough to hear it two rows down...

    Me: "Yes, sir. It'll normally highlight the address that's already in there so you can type it in and head to that page."
    SC: "So I just click up there where it says 'http colon slash slash'?

    Nope. You click on the magical Shut Down button. You know, the one that'll make both our problems go away.

    Me: "Yep. Just click once and it'll let you type that address in."
    SC: "Okay..." Short pause while he does so. "It didn't do anything after I typed it in."
    Me: "Did you hit the Return key?"
    SC: "..................................."

    Oh, Jesus ramrod skullfuck. Really, dude?

    Me: "Hit the Return key and it'll load that page."
    SC: *presses Return and a miracle happens* "Okay, there it is. Now where do I go to put in my login info?"
    Me: "Click on 'Log In'."
    SC: "Okay." Short pause. "I tried typing my user name in and it's not showing up."

    One of the team leads walks up to me at this point. I explain what's going on with a look on my face that just says "Okay, gimme booze, kill me or take over this call, I don't care." He walks off.

    Me: "Did you click on the box next to 'User ID'?
    SC: "............................."
    Me: "Click on the box next to 'User ID', then type your user name in. Then click on the box next to 'Password' and do the same with your password."
    SC: "Okay..... oh, there it is. Now how do I check my messages?"
    Me: "Click on the link that says 'Check Mail'."

    Repeat this until it's already half an hour after the time my shift is supposed to end. And if it's any indication, the end of the conversation:

    Me: "Well, I'm glad I could help you get the basics of using your email down. Please remember that we're available 24/7 if you need further assistance. And if it makes you feel any better, I don't really have that much experience with Macs myself; I've been a Windows user for years and years."
    SC: "Me too. I just bought this Mac recently so I could use your service."

    Aaaaaaaaaaaand that's about the point where I thank him for calling, hang up, shut my station down, pack up, and walk out of the building like I'd just had a tombstone over my head up until that point.


    And that's all for now. Time for me to go drink myself into a fuck-my-liver state.
    Last edited by ZedOmega; 07-03-2011, 03:20 AM.
    My other car is a Mackinaw.

  • #2
    Quoth ZedOmega View Post
    ... like I'd just had a tombstone over my head up until that point.
    Damocles had it easy, I tell ya.
    I am not an a**hole. I am a hemorrhoid. I irritate a**holes!
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    • #3
      Quoth ZedOmega View Post

      2) Speaking of viruses, that trojan disguised as an antivirus program? We hate that fucking bug so much. Why in the world would we put it on your computer when it prevents us from doing any-fucking-thing to troubleshoot what's keeping you offline? For that matter, why would we sabotage your computer just for the sake of having you call a service that's free?


      Oh, I hate that fucker too. However, there are several ways to get rid of it depending on just which one it is.

      Sadly the average SC doesn't have the attention span or the listening skills to follow the steps to get rid of it.

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      • #4
        Quoth dalesys View Post
        Damocles had it easy, I tell ya.
        I think if Damocles had to deal with half the people any of us do on a regular basis, he'd ask someone to cut the hair holding the sword up after day one...

        Quoth Ellf View Post
        Oh, I hate that fucker too. However, there are several ways to get rid of it depending on just which one it is.

        Sadly the average SC doesn't have the attention span or the listening skills to follow the steps to get rid of it.
        True. That's also one of the things I wish I could step into out-of-scope shoes to fix. Something like that for us automatically goes straight to a department we have designed to fix things we didn't provide to the customer. Still irritates me that they think it's our fault their computer got hit with it. We're not redirecting them to whatever shady site they like to go to. >.>
        My other car is a Mackinaw.

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        • #5
          Usually a system restore gets rid of those things, that being said a system restore is way beyond most people who ring for help.
          If I dropped everybody who occasionally said something stupid from my list of potential partners, I wouldn’t even be able to masturbate

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          • #6
            About Mr. MacNoob...I think he was a computer noob, period. That is the only possible explanation for you having to tell him to click things that would be universal to ANY BROWSER and ANY COMPUTER. You truly have my sympathies, Zed!
            "And though she be but little, she is FIERCE!"--Shakespeare

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            • #7
              Quoth ZedOmega View Post
              Tryin' to tell ya now, it's SABOTAAAAAAAAAAAAGE! Dun-dun-dundundun-duuun--
              Either there was some ill communication, or they were fighting for their rights......

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              • #8
                Quoth ZedOmega View Post
                2) Speaking of viruses, that trojan disguised as an antivirus program? We hate that fucking bug so much.
                OH MY DOG I HATE THAT DOGDAMNED VIRUS! Mom got it a few days ago. She was dumb enough to open a file that was "sent by the IRS". -_-

                Da Mom: "...Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel!"
                Ar-Dubya: "I'm right here, what?"
                Da Mom: "Don't open any emails from the IRS."
                Ar-Dubya: "The IRS doesn't send emails, why are you... ooooooh, you just got something nasty, didn't you?"
                Da Mom: "Fix it."
                Ar-Dubya: "Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-fine. Move over."

                It. Took. Me. TWO DAYS TO GET IT OFF! *Rants-blathers-foams-at-the-mouth-RAGE* She's running Windows 7 and I'm in LOATHING HATE with it. I'll stick with my XP.
                Now a member of that alien race called Management.

                Yeah, you see that right. Pink. Harness.

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                • #9
                  Yeah gotta love those viruses you have to install yourself.

                  I had a popup like that a couple of weeks ago. It told me I had a virus. I told it "no I don't!" and closed the browser window.



                  If only other people would do that.
                  Or at least do what my Mom does and ask someone who's geeky first.

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                  • #10
                    Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                    About Mr. MacNoob...I think he was a computer noob, period. That is the only possible explanation for you having to tell him to click things that would be universal to ANY BROWSER and ANY COMPUTER. You truly have my sympathies, Zed!
                    That was my thought too. My mom will be 84 on Friday and she regularly calls me with these kinds of questions. I often have to tell her the same thing over and over again. The biggest issue is that she lives 2 hours away...I can't just pop over and fix stuff. We've also tried using Remote Desktop Assistance so I can log onto her machine from mine, but that never seems to work for some reason. Our only saving grace is my husband's line of work...he is a software developer/support guy and he has some kind of remote desktop access that he can use to putter around my mom's machine. I wish my dad could help, but he's only 74 and he's more of a computer n00b than my mom...
                    "I was only LOOKING, I didn't mean to enter my card's CVV and actually ORDER! REFUND ME RIGHT NOW!!"

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                    • #11
                      I lost count of how many times I had to tell my grandmother how to copy/paste. And then I started working for the library and teaching those computer basic for seniors classes. *whimper*

                      Quoth RetailWorkhorse View Post
                      She's running Windows 7 and I'm in LOATHING HATE with it. I'll stick with my XP.
                      I would love to go back to XP. But at least Windows 7 is better than *snarl* Vista.


                      Ugh. Gotta go cleanse myself now.
                      I am no longer of capable of the emotion you humans call “compassion”. Though I can feign it in exchange for an hourly wage. (Gravekeeper)

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                      • #12
                        Quoth jedimaster91 View Post
                        Vista.
                        *Loads a GUN*

                        No one I know will touch Vista with a ten-foot pole save for MAYBE the Mac-User (but then, I tease her about using a Mac and she teases me about using a PC so we're all good).
                        Now a member of that alien race called Management.

                        Yeah, you see that right. Pink. Harness.

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                        • #13
                          Quoth RetailWorkhorse View Post
                          *Loads a GUN*

                          No one I know will touch Vista with a ten-foot pole save for MAYBE the Mac-User (but then, I tease her about using a Mac and she teases me about using a PC so we're all good).
                          Actually, I ran Vista on my gaming PC at home for from just after release up til a couple months ago (New mega-compy runs 7 ). I wanted to get some experiance with it. Its been working just fine since I got it. The only issue was a power supply letting the magic pixie smoke out. Honestly, I think it suffered more from bad press than anything else.
                          The Rich keep getting richer because they keep doing what it was that made them rich. Ditto the Poor.
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                          • #14
                            Quoth PepperElf View Post
                            Yeah gotta love those viruses you have to install yourself.

                            I had a popup like that a couple of weeks ago. It told me I had a virus. I told it "no I don't!" and closed the browser window.



                            If only other people would do that.
                            Or at least do what my Mom does and ask someone who's geeky first.
                            My dad didn't. Wound up having to have his hard drive reformatted. He has a habit of not reading and just clicking. I wouldn't be surprised if my mom takes a clue bat to him someday.

                            Quoth Geek King View Post
                            Actually, I ran Vista on my gaming PC at home for from just after release up til a couple months ago (New mega-compy runs 7 ). I wanted to get some experiance with it. Its been working just fine since I got it. The only issue was a power supply letting the magic pixie smoke out. Honestly, I think it suffered more from bad press than anything else.
                            I still have Vista on my desktop. Been running just fine for 3 years. I've got 7 on my laptop and I honestly don't notice a real difference between the two.
                            It's floating wicker propelled by fire!

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                            • #15
                              Quoth Pagan View Post
                              I still have Vista on my desktop. Been running just fine for 3 years. I've got 7 on my laptop and I honestly don't notice a real difference between the two.
                              Windows 7, given the correct amount of RAM, WORKS.
                              Vista on the other hand, whatever the RAM, sucks rancid monkey balls.

                              *The above was brought to you via a 20+ year veteran of tech support*

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