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  • Now on the Other Foot

    I can't remember what thread it was in. But sometime back in Christmas, someone posted a story about an older brother who bought a video game for his younger brother. Then the father made a fuss about the game or the controller being "girlish" and giving the younger son a hard time for it.

    Well, a couple days ago when I picked up a second shift at the Red Bullseye, I found that gender bias happens outside of the Pen 15 club.

    Had a mother and daughter team. The daughter could have been sixteen, seventeen, or probably eighteen. She was definitely an inch taller than her mother.

    As I'm ringing her up, this exchange takes place.

    Mother: This is a man's razor.
    Daughter: It doesn't matter, it's the same thing.
    Mother: But honey, it's a man's razor.

    I get a glimpse of the razors. They're Gillette and they are marketed towards men. But the only difference I can personally see between these and the ones marketed towards women is that these ones are black and gray. So maybe I'm mistaken here, but I am kind of on the daughter's side here and I very tactfully pointed out that black is a gender neutral color. The mother capitulates, but it doesn't end with the razor.

    Mother: (In a very condescending tone) Honey, you don't need this. It's for men.

    This time the argument is over a can of Axe body spray. The daughter insisted that she that it made no difference to her. She was standing her ground, but her mother kept insisting that her daughter's choices were incorrect based purely on where the plumming was located. And when the mother stood her ground and put the Axe aside the daughter didn't pursue it, the way most of us know that we're not going to win when our parents are being unreasonable but are still holding all of the cards.

    When I saw what kind of Axe it was, I could see that it wasn't the kind specifically marketed towards women, but in my honest view, just because the scent may have been marketed towards men it didn't mean that there's a set in stone rule that you need a penis to use it. I mean I've used womens' shaving gel and womens' deodorant and I didn't suddenly sprout breasts. So I didn't personally see where the daughter was in the wrong for her choices.

    I should also point out that the daughter wasn't being entitled or nasty towards her mother. I give her additional points for being mature enough to let it drop, knowing that it was her mother paying for everything. But if I were her I'd go back to the store with my own money, buy the body spray and leave it in a place where her mother would find it just to really drive the point home.

  • #2
    Who cares, lady? I sometimes buy men's razors because they're cheaper on average and do the same thing. All I care about regarding color is that they match the bathroom. And I sometimes buy men's pants 'caue they fit better. I'm female. Always have been; always will be. I don't see a problem.
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    • #3
      Had I been in your shoes and witnessing the situation, I would've been incredibly uncomfortable and annoyed. But since I'm in the comfort of my own home, I'm a bit amused.

      Growing up, my sis and brother pulled the same crap. Sis would call something my brother was wearing "girly" and then he'd freak out and have to change immediately. On the flip side, if someone suggested sis's clothes were manly, she'd refuse to wear them again. Sis is no where near as bad as she was, but she's still pretty sensitive to what people think of her clothes.
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      • #4
        I've found sometimes the men's razors work better anyways since they're made to CUT HAIR and not be all gentle and shit. I also carry a wallet in my back pocket at all times and rarely use the purse I have.

        *looks down*

        Nope, no penis yet!
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        • #5
          Years ago, The Wife picked up a hand full of the women's razors with a "specially designed" handle to work better on a women. Wasn't impressed (probably cost more too) and stole my old Gillette (I don't use one anymore. Full beard). Been using it since.

          For years, I used an antiperspirant that was later marketed as "for women." It had a baby powder scent that did not reek havoc on my sinuses.
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          • #6
            I tend to go for the neutral deos, which are kinda aimed more at the feminine market I think; sorry, but no amount of celebrity endorsements will persuade me that I need to smell like a 3rd world country, or a footballer's armpits, or whatever the hell they're trying to conjure up with their ridiculous scents. Gimme something with a hint of fresh cut grass any day!
            This was one of those times where my mouth says "have a nice day" but my brain says "go step on a Lego". - RegisterAce
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            • #7
              I always buy the "men's" container of my favorite solid anti-perspirant because it's larger than the so-called "women's" version....at the same price.
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              • #8
                Poor hubby is allergic to most of the "manly" deodorants, so he uses the same brand I do, baby powder scented for MY allergies. He uses a pink lady's electric razor because it was on sale at the time.

                I buy men's t-shirts, because I don't WANT flowers, kittens and rainbows on my tees! I happen to love Batman, Rob Zombie, Thundercats and other comic book/cartoon/video game characters that aren't "girly." We share them, since we wear the same size.

                Perfumes/Musks are out of the question... silly allergies.

                My son, however, doesn't like the color pink. Come to think of it, neither do I. It's too girly
                If I make no sense, I apologize. I'm constantly interrupted by an actual toddler.

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                • #9
                  There's another possibility. Could be that the daughter is transgender, and hasn't admitted it to her mother yet. I've broached the subject with my own mother, but haven't told her point blank. Instead I've merely started purchasing things that are more neutral or male-oriented, such as shirts (Mom noticed the shirt I had the other day had 'male buttons') or razors -- although as mentioned above, if you really want to SHAVE SOMETHING, guy razors tend to be better for some reason.

                  I do however use "female" oriented deodorant/antiperspirant, mostly because they come in scents like baby powder or cucumber, both of which are relatively mild and inoffensive compared to... well, the usual AXE products >.>

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, some people still freak out if you wrap a baby boy in a pink blanket - you'd think we'd have come past that, but nope, all sterotypes allive & well.

                    I will grant you, a razor may be angled slightly differently if it's planned to be used on the face or the legs, and for some people, that might make it easier to use. But then again, who's to say where either gender is using it

                    Some expensive perfumes are marketed as "unisex", so the perfume police don't come after you if you use the wrong one, but hey, live dangerously, take a chance - smell it, and if you want to smell like that, use it - ignore the labels, screw the establishment, start anarchy (oops, 60's flashback there, sorry)

                    I like my deodorant unscented, but even absence of scent is marketed as either male or female (maybe deodorants secretely have estrogen or testosterone or something, maybe we've uncovered a new conspiracy, quick, get the tin foil hats). I also like "baby fresh scent". Fortunately, no one has yet begun to market baby powder by gender (quick, hide this from the ad execs & marketing people, please - next thing you know we'll have his & hers lines for baby shampoo, talcum powder & even onesies).

                    My personal favourite are the "women's tool kits". Ok, I will give you, I have small hands, I wouldn't mind a full set of good tools with slightly smaller/slimmer handles. But I refuse to believe that as a woman, I'm not capable of hammering a nail or removing a screw unless the handle of said tool is covered in lilacs or bright pink foam. Honest, people, the screws & nails don't notice, and the cats laugh hysterically.

                    Madness takes it's toll....
                    Please have exact change ready.

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                    • #11
                      Quoth Merriweather View Post
                      ...and the cats laugh hysterically.
                      That's when you zap the little snerklers in their Velco suits and hang them on the wall as decorations.
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                      • #12
                        Quoth Merriweather View Post
                        Yeah, some people still freak out if you wrap a baby boy in a pink blanket - you'd think we'd have come past that, but nope, all sterotypes allive & well.
                        In fact, traditionally pink, being related to red, a "hot" colour was for boys and the cooler, calmer blue was considered more suited to girls!

                        So, if I saw a boy wrapped in a pink blanket, I'd probably comment on how traditional & "olde tyme" the parents were being
                        Arp happens!

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                        • #13
                          Quoth Merriweather View Post
                          Yeah, some people still freak out if you wrap a baby boy in a pink blanket - you'd think we'd have come past that, but nope, all sterotypes allive & well.
                          Crazily enough, it's a recent development too - pink was considered "too strong" a colour for girls between the world wars of the 20th Century!
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink
                          This was one of those times where my mouth says "have a nice day" but my brain says "go step on a Lego". - RegisterAce
                          I can't make something magically appear to fulfill all your hopes and dreams. Believe me, if I could I'd be the first person I'd help. - Trixie

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                          • #14
                            Lol, I been using my wife's brand of body wash for over a year now. First time was when I ran out of my men's body wash and had to use hers, it smelled really good! After I got out of the shower I was like "Honey! I think I might be gay! I just used your body wash and really liked it!"

                            *Disclaimer* Yes I know not all gay men like pink, frilly, girly things, I meant it as a joke then and I still do, to all my gay and lesbian friends out there, please do not take offense.

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                            • #15
                              I buy men's deodorant because all women's deodorants have anti-perspirant. I'm allergic to anti-prepirant.

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