So, I may be responsible for a child being homeless...

[Rine]

They'll move 'em out for you and possibly contact CPS about the child.

Nearly what I was going to say...believe it or not, I feel (somewhat) for the kid. I think someone should contact CPS and get this child the help that he needs. I've seen kids like this in the school and heard stories about others. One kid would constantly act out, be violent, threaten other kids and the teachers, etc. Basically, he was always in some serious trouble. One month he was absent for a long time...and when he came back, he said that he had to stay out because the make-up wouldn't cover the bruises his dad gave to him. They were reported to the CPS but they left town that night and the authorities could never track the family or that kid down again.

Give them a few days but you have to protect yourself and your family. The "mother" is responsible for their well-being. Good luck.

[XCashier]

Any updates, SE? I hope all is well with you?

[Jester]

Seems I am a bit late to this thread. I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. In any case, allow me to wade right in here.....

First of all, the title of your thread is wrong. YOU will in no way be responsible for this little fucker being homeless. His mom will.

I know a lot of people here are going on about the kid, but the fact is, you can tell a lot about people by the way their kids and pets act. And this kid is a monster. Apparently he has learned all the wrong things from Daddy Dearest. But Momma isn't exactly doing anything to prevent him from being a Chip off the Old Blockhead.

More to the point, the lazy bitch has not paid a cent in rent to a friend that is helping her out, she and her spawn are stealing your food, and she sees no problem with violent threats the little fucker has made.

I agree that you should throw them out. I think it should be immediately, but you have to do whatever is best for you, and if that involves waiting a few days to make everything copacetic, that is your call.

A few suggestions:

When you inform her of her imminent departure from your homeless shelter home, make sure you are clear and firm about why they need to go. It sure isn't the lack of chores, but the culmination of no rent, stealing your shit, and the little fucker's completely unacceptable behavior. In essence, this bitch has taken advantage of your good nature, and you will not be taken advantage of any longer. And don't yell or shout, even if they do. Keep a calm, firm voice, and do not let anything they say or do get to you. And due to the little fucker's kinder gentler nature, I would have some witnesses on hand when you deliver their walking papers. Preferably witnesses on the large and scary-looking variety.

Also inform her that you DO expect her to make good on the rent she owes you for the two months of her stay. Personally, I doubt you will ever see a dime from her, but at least this way you are doing everything legally. And who knows, maybe some day she will pay you. I just wouldn't hold my breath.

You may also want to consider charging them for the food they ate if they didn't bother buying any themselves, which is what it sounds like. I would draw up a bill for rent, utilities, and food, and present it to her when you inform her of her upcoming change in residence.

One other thing, and this concerns the little fucker himself. He is making these violent threats because his mother won't stop him, and apparently neither will you. There is a great way to end this. It is evil, vicious, and horrible, and I recommend it highly. Basically, the next time Momma Useless isn't around and it's just you and Eddie Munster, or better yet, you and informed friends and Troll Boy, while you are doing something with a knife (say, cutting up meat or whatever), look him right in the eye, and very calmly, very quietly, and very firmly tell him that the next time he threatens you or acts like a little shit, he is going to wake up with his scrotum stuffed down his fucking throat. Having a knife in hand, without mentioning the knife, is a very effective psychological tool.

As someone who has stared down guys twice my size, I can tell you that if you do this right, it will scare the fuck out of him. My guess is that he will think about saying something, see the hopefully appropriately evil glint in your eye, and decide better of it, and then storm out of the residence. It is almost a certainty that he will tell his mother. If you have friends there, they can back you up when you tell her you have no idea what the little fucker is talking about. Even if you don't have witnesses, just act completely innocent, and have no idea where he could have come up with a crazy story like that.

Also, on moving day, make sure you have plenty of friends/witnesses on hand so that Momma Useless and her demonspawn can't damage or steal anything, and make sure you get your keys back from her. And after she's gone, change the locks anyway, because there's no telling if she copied the keys.

Oh, and is anyone else wondering about the "attack" by her husband?

Yes, this is smelling like some kind of scam to me too.

I'm not, I've met the guy, and I would not doubt that he would do what he was accused of doing.

Even if Smiley hadn't said that, I would believe that the attack was real. Where do you think the little fucker learned to be such a violent horrible shit? Scam? No. Sad reality? Oh yeah.

That kid needs help. Majorly bad.

You are absolutely right.

And it absolutely doesn't matter.

That is the problem of his useless mother and asshole father, NOT Smiley's problem, responsibility, or worry.

A lot of people need help. Smiley tried to help these two out already, and it has gotten him nothing but leeches, threats, drama, and thievery. Smiley has helped this family enough.

Time they start fucking helping themselves.

[Seshat]

We (as a society) pay people to help the children who are dangerous. Go ahead and help people who are not a threat to your welfare and property, but let the experts help the ones who are!

[smileyeagle1021]

Sorry for being so long without an update, it's been a busy couple of weeks (mid semester tests and all).
The solution we came up with was for my mother/landlord to call her and tell her that she was going to disallow any further subletting of the unit until further notice (granted, further notice could be two weeks after she's gone, but I'm kind of doubting it, I think she is going to say that she'd rather eat the cost of the room being empty than take the risk of getting another Mamma Uselss and Demon Spawn, or Druggie Thief, or Manipulative Fag Witch, or well, you get the idea). Of course the beauty of this is that the behavior element (the part most likely to offend) is completely removed from the equation (even though she still knows that it's a factor, even though it's not said). It all now boils down to, she had a no notice contract (both for her leaving and for it being terminated by the landlord), and the landlord has decided that the benefit of subletting is not enough to justify the cost. Our current agreement is that she will be out by October 31st with a grace period until November 7th to finish moving out her stuff.

[Jester]

I think that that is far too nice. I know why you are doing it the way you are doing it , but a grace period? That leaves too much room for something bad to happen. It also leaves too much room for some things to turn up "missing."

Good luck. I hope it all goes smoothly....I just doubt it will.

[smileyeagle1021]

Jester, unfortunately I believe you are right... this course of action though is the one that should at least minimize it from definitely going bad to just most likely going bad (the kid is a vindictive bastard and softening the blow and shifting blame hopefully will at least keep his vindictiveness at bay).

[Wenchie]

Good luck... and make sure to keep up updated hon. I hope the move-out works smoothly.

[XCashier]

I think that that is far too nice. I know why you are doing it the way you are doing it , but a grace period? That leaves too much room for something bad to happen. It also leaves too much room for some things to turn up "missing."

Agreed. Lock up your valuables and your kitchen knives. Would not be a bad idea to keep your fiance nearby. Did you talk to the police at all (specifically about the little thug and his threats), just in case happens?

[RootedPhoenix]

*offers Smiley some chocolate*
I've got no advice, sorry.

[Jester]

...shifting blame hopefully will at least keep his vindictiveness at bay.

Well, at least give some thought to scaring his balls off as suggested earlier. Make him too afraid of you to steal from you.

[Mytical]

Photograph everything you have. When they are gone, check what you currently have against the photos. If anything major (or many minor things) are missing, call the cops. Might want to make sure that the camera has a way of noting time/date..like a digital camera. Then you have proof that something was taken. A lot of insurance places will suggest this when you get a policy, so that replacement or reimbursement is easier.