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  • #91
    Just FYI for those interested - the Big N has finally broken down and released an official (as in conformed by Zelda's creator), canon timeline for the series (minor spoilers for OOT within, by its very nature) -- a translation follows.

    http://kotaku.com/5871215/the-offici...h-added-detail
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    • #92
      Interesting, EricKei. I'm not sure I buy it...the whole hero failing thing for one leaves me scratching my head. Just from reading the comments, I can see how many, many questions the timeline still leaves. It sort of makes sense, and yet it doesn't. Hmm...
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      • #93
        Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
        Interesting, EricKei. I'm not sure I buy it...the whole hero failing thing for one leaves me scratching my head. Just from reading the comments, I can see how many, many questions the timeline still leaves. It sort of makes sense, and yet it doesn't. Hmm...
        I do need to make one correction -- Aonuma didn't create Zelda, he is the one who took over the reigns, iirc. However, he is the one who has apparently confirmed the accuracy of the chart.

        It does indeed leave some holes -- for instance, the fact that the two Oracle games (Ages and Seasons) took place *at the same time* on different islands, but featuring (theoretically) the *same Link*, which suggests parallel dimensions on a smaller scale (note that Ages involves time travel).

        The "Link wins but goes back to being a kid, and gets (kid) Zelda to help him convince the King not to trust Ganondorf" is the ending according to OOT. That's the one in the middle. The other two are "what if" timelines, as far as I can tell, or else Terminator-style time paradoxes that caused dimensional splits. Right timeline: Link wins and stays as an adult. Left split: Link loses; note that this leads to most of the more popular games in the series. I would also like to see if they have any definitive listing of which games feature the "same" Link -- Z1 and Z2 canonically do; Ages/Seasons/Awakening are all supposed to be the same Link (paradox notwithstanding); OOT and Majora canonically share a Link. Being (probable) reincarnations of one person kinda makes sense, and being different people does explain why he's sometimes left-handed and sometimes right-handed.
        "For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
        "The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
        "Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
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        "Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
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        • #94
          Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
          Also, I have three words: I. Hate. Skulltulas! I just had one kill me...probably sounds pretty noob-ish, I know, but just...gah!
          Guh, they were awful for me at first. I ended up bypassing them where I could and drowning two of them (and then listening to Fi tell me my skill against them was weak when I was hoping for tips). Then I went back up to the sparring hall and saw that my good buddy the Gossip/Sheikah Stone had new messages for me, including a video on how to defeat the stupid things. Much better now.

          I'm currently at the start of Din's Silent Realm (and absolutely hating all of those Trials, gyah), but I haven't played in over two weeks due to moving one state over. We're still trying to get the place set up, so I haven't had time for the Wii lately.
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          • #95
            Skulltullas are vile.

            The timeline is interesting.....seems rather complicated.

            I FINALLY got past the Spiral Charge trial. No idea why it took me so long, hell, I almost gave up on all things Zelda, I was getting frustrated.

            And I can I say....please, Zelda games....stop with the collecting quests.....they are getting old. Tadpoles, really?


            I am tempted to get a 3DS....the Zelda bundle....but that just might be over the top. I thought I read a rumor of a new Zelda for it in the future......
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            • #96
              Its over. I FINALLY beat it.

              Some thoughts:

              Fi is far more annoying than Navi. Yeah, I went there Yes, I am aware I am about to die, thank you for pointing that out.

              Flying sucks.

              Nice to have a long Zelda adventure, and I still haven't gotten all the side quests.

              Loved the storyline. A good way to start the saga.

              Link had more facial expressions, there are time he actually looked pissed instead of just confused.

              The ending: pretty, but not as epic as I psyched myself up for. Still, will beat last baddie again and watch over again

              Guess it up to the heroic mode and/or playing Ocarina 3DS. Or WoW
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              • #97
                Quoth Cat View Post
                Fi is far more annoying than Navi. Yeah, I went there Yes, I am aware I am about to die, thank you for pointing that out.
                I'm not so sure on that. It seems to be a real trend, even amongst die hard Zelda fans, to want to throw the sword into the sea just to get rid of Fi.
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                • #98
                  I'm currently in the middle of doing the Fire Sanctuary. Yes, Fi is damn annoying. Yes Fi, I'm aware my hearts have dropped. I'm also aware what a puzzle door is and what's behind it. Stop pointing out the obvious, damn you!! Oh and Scapper? My name is not Master Shortpants, thank you. You're lucky I didn't shove you into the lava on the way up the damn mountain! ETA: Screaming "MONSTERS!!!! OMG!!" as I'm trying to defeat said monsters is not helping me. Escorting Scrapper up the mountain had to be one of the most annoying things in the whole game...aside from Fi, of course.
                  Last edited by BrenDAnn; 01-18-2012, 06:20 PM.
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                  • #99
                    Quoth Cat View Post
                    Fi is far more annoying than Navi. Yeah, I went there Yes, I am aware I am about to die, thank you for pointing that out.
                    Eh, at least Fi can still be asked for useful info even when she's being annoying. And it's easier to ignore the "helpful" chime she makes than it is to ignore the constant "Hey, listen!" when you're sidequesting instead of going to the next Plot Point. And when I'd listen to Navi just to try to get her to shut up, and then go back to sidequesting, she'd go back to pestering me.

                    Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                    ETA: Screaming "MONSTERS!!!! OMG!!" as I'm trying to defeat said monsters is not helping me. Escorting Scrapper up the mountain had to be one of the most annoying things in the whole game...aside from Fi, of course.
                    Oh dear. Worse than the Silent Realms? (I'm still stuck on Din's Silent Realm, mostly due to not having the time to hook up the Wii yet after our move.)
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                    • #100
                      Quoth lordlundar View Post
                      I'm not so sure on that. It seems to be a real trend, even amongst die hard Zelda fans, to want to throw the sword into the sea just to get rid of Fi.

                      I tried
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                      • #101
                        Quoth Kogarashi View Post

                        Oh dear. Worse than the Silent Realms? (I'm still stuck on Din's Silent Realm, mostly due to not having the time to hook up the Wii yet after our move.)
                        Uh yeah. You have to make sure nothing attacks him, and if you get too far ahead of him he screams at you to wait for him. Then as you're killing "MONSTERS!!!" to protect him, he bitches about "Are you gonna handle these?"...Ugh! I was never so glad to reach the top of Eldin Volcano as I was when I finished that, I swear!

                        ETA: I'm currently on my second bout with The Imprisoned. Fun times. Not.
                        Last edited by BrenDAnn; 01-21-2012, 06:36 AM.
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                        • #102
                          On Fi and annoyance levels:

                          http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/996
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                          • #103
                            Oh that's brilliant, Kheldarson! Did anyone else have trouble with the Spiral Charge trial? I'm having a bitch of a time with it. 10 targets in 120 seconds, my ass!
                            "And though she be but little, she is FIERCE!"--Shakespeare

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                            • #104
                              I had difficulties with it too. My plan eventually boiled to: get all the stationary targets and then attempt the moving targets.
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                              • #105
                                Quoth BrenDAnn View Post
                                Oh that's brilliant, Kheldarson! Did anyone else have trouble with the Spiral Charge trial? I'm having a bitch of a time with it. 10 targets in 120 seconds, my ass!
                                That one really frustrated Hubs. It also didn't help when he proclaimed "I'd like to see you do better", and I got 8 on my first try (his record was 7 until then).

                                (I'm still way back at the ship yard. I haven't had time to play in over a week. I think Hubby's almost done, though.)
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