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Quoth veniteangeli View Post(Oh, and she was making irritating chip changes, too. Fifteen dollars, from fives to ones, EVERY SINGLE HAND, only to place five one dollar chips on each of three hands. WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU OMG SERIOUSLY.)
First hand - bet $5 lost
Second hand - wait until everyone had their bets out, stand up, take out wallet, open wallet, open little flap inside wallet, take out one $25 chip, push to dealer, get $5 chips. Close flap, close wallet, put back in pants, put $5 bet on.
Third hand - win $5. Push stack of $5 chips at dealer, get $25 chip. Stand up, take out wallet, open wallet, open little flap inside wallet, put $25 chip inside, close flap, close wallet, put wallet back in pants pocket, sit down, place $5 bet.
Repeat 10 times from first hand to second hand with the whole table watching and waiting every performance.
After the approximate 10th time I cracked. The floor manager (who should have been watching the new dealer) came over and instructed the dealer to stop changing chips and to stop waiting for Mr Stupid, just deal the cards.
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Quoth wolfie View PostBut the customer is always right, and after all, he WAS asking you to hit him.
And to gerund - that's either extreme OCD, or extreme selfishness and narcissism. Either way I'm glad he was made to stop. At no time is it okay to hold up an entire table full of people just to suit your whim.Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...
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Quoth veniteangeli View Post
Either way I'm glad he was made to stop. At no time is it okay to hold up an entire table full of people just to suit your whim.
The problem with blackjack in Australia is the dealer does not get their second card until everyone has acted, so the last player to act is often blamed by superstitious players for the end result.
After the pit boss found out about her (someone complained ), she improved quite a bit as a dealer, but I understand she still sucked as a player.
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Quoth veniteangeli View Post-... even if she was smarter than me...
- They don't pay me to be wrong.
- So I suspect it's a combination of being an idiot and an inconsiderate selfish ass.
- Indeed ^_^
- Yeah, that last one works for me, too."For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
"The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
"Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
"There's burning bridges, and then there's the lake just to fill it with gasoline." - Wiccy, reddit
"Retail is a cruel master, and could very well be the most educational time of many people's lives, in its own twisted way." - me
"Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
Acts of Gord – Read it, Learn it, Love it!
"Our psychic powers only work if the customer has a mind to read." - me
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Quoth manybellsdown View PostOkey-dokey!
As for the calling you by your name over and over ... can you reply with an increasingly ludicrous nickname each time?
"Why thank you veniteangeli."
"You're welcome, Pookiemuffin."
"...What??"
"Nothing Snorklemumpus, did you want to hit or stand?"
No, I just hid behind my hair and glowered at her. The more she did it, the more I retreated, until it was painfully obvious that I was willing her death with every inhale.Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...
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Quoth draco664 View PostNot being a gambler, I don't know what goes on in casinos, beyond the basic rules of the games played.
As I understand it, counting cards means keeping a running total in your mind counting the numbers of low cards v the number of face cards, and adjusting your bets when the total gets askew in one direction or the other.
How does a card shuffling machine counter that? Unless you add all the used cards and reshuffle after each hand.
For example, say we're using four decks. That's 4x52 cards, or 208 cards. If you're keeping tabs on what comes out, then you can guess what's left to come out, right? And the closer to the end of the cards you get, the more accurate your guesses can be.
The card shuffler eliminates this method of card counting, because after every hand, instead of putting the cards in the discard holder to accumulate, they go straight back in the machine. Since they're all constantly cycling through, the ability to predict what's "left" is nil. Minus the cards being used in the current hand, ALL the cards are "left".
Another method utilizes a running total, where you add one for a high card, subtract one for a low card, add nil for a middle card (not the real method, just an approximation from what I've read). Again, this is based on the concept that you can guess what's left, with increasing accuracy toward the end of the cards, based on the running total in your head.Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...
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Quoth veniteangeli View PostJesus, even in normal conversation with my actual friends, we don't say each other's names longer than it takes to get the other's attention! Once it's established who you're taking to, the names become irrelevant!
I don't call my brothers by name, either, but what I call THEM isn't exactly printable. I love them, but they're younger than me. Status must be established and maintained.What colour is the sky in your world and how high of a dosage do you need before it turns back to blue? --Gravekeeper
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Quoth veniteangeli View PostHow to play blackjack
Short but sweet: if you want another card, you make a tapping motion on the table. If you don't want another card, you make a waving motion. This is so that we have you on camera making your decision. On the off chance one of us (read: you) makes a mistake, we have a record of the decisions that were made.
Quoth veniteangeliWhile I'm on the subject of being over familiar
Yes, I'm wearing a name badge. By reading my name off it, you've actually proved that you're smarter than 95% of the clientèle - you can read! Kudos. But there's no need to REPEAT my name every thirty seconds. It's as creepy as shit. I don't know you from a bar of soap. We are not friends. I can't return the "favor" by constantly namedropping YOU.
Quoth veniteangeli(Oh, and she was making irritating chip changes, too. Fifteen dollars, from fives to ones, EVERY SINGLE HAND, only to place five one dollar chips on each of three hands. WHAT IS THE POINT OF YOU OMG SERIOUSLY.)
Quoth gerund View PostRepeat 10 times from first hand to second hand with the whole table watching and waiting every performance.
After the approximate 10th time I cracked. The floor manager (who should have been watching the new dealer) came over and instructed the dealer to stop changing chips and to stop waiting for Mr Stupid, just deal the cards.
Quoth gerund View PostHe looked quite annoyed and then played with his $5 chips for a short time, then went away. The dealer was an ex-player who became a dealer to stop her giving all of her money to the casino. She decided it was OK to go over each hand and tell the last player what he should have done to bust her.
Quoth gerundThe problem with blackjack in Australia is the dealer does not get their second card until everyone has acted, so the last player to act is often blamed by superstitious players for the end result.Dealer hits... 21. Table loses.
This happens more often than most people want to believe.
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1. I had a situation once where someone was drumming their fingers on the table. I reacted instinctively and gave them a card. 16+10=bust! they were pretty pissed about it, and I didn't give a shit, so I handed it off to the inspector, who handed it off to our scariest pit boss, N. She reviewed the cameras, came back, and literally said, "If you want a card, tap on the table. If you want to drum, get a drum set. Either way stop holding the table up by being a damn baby. YOU messed up, so stop trying to make out like the dealer was at fault."
I loved her.
2. I requested a name change (for the rest of the night). I had some cool pit bosses on, so I just explained how creeped out the sound of my own name was making me, and I got to be Jim for the rest of the evening. It amuses us all, because I'm a woman
3. I have to make change. I don't have to be happy about it. And the ones weren't for the back bet, they were for Perfect Pairs - do you guys have that?
As far as them slowing the game down, have you ever noticed that the very people who do that, are the first ones to get pissy if you have to delay it for someone else? So that's what I do. I'll zoom through the annoying chip change and shove the chips out at them in two seconds flat, but I'll take my time over anyone else's change, with lots of smiles, customer service small talk, and rapport. I can't think of a better way to get the point across that this is MY table, and we will be going at MY pace, whether you like it or not. What are they going to do, complain that I'm being friendly to the players?
4. I don't tell people what to do, ever. There are certain moves where I want to bang people's heads together, like you said, but I won't say anything. It's their money, if they want to piss it up against the wall playing a game they have no idea how to play, that's their lookout. My reasoning is, if I tell you what I think you should do, and you do it and lose, it opens up a can of worms where you can claim that the casino trains its dealers to deliberately make you lose by giving bad advice. I'm not going down like that.Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet...
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Quoth veniteangeli View PostI requested a name change
What are they going to do, complain that I'm being friendly to the players?"For a musician, the SNES sound engine is like using Crayola Crayons. Nobuo Uematsu used Crayola Crayons to paint the Sistine Chapel." - Jeremy Jahns (re: "Dancing Mad")
"The difference between an amateur and a master is that the master has failed way more times." - JoCat
"Thinking is difficult, therefore let the herd pronounce judgment!" ~ Carl Jung
"There's burning bridges, and then there's the lake just to fill it with gasoline." - Wiccy, reddit
"Retail is a cruel master, and could very well be the most educational time of many people's lives, in its own twisted way." - me
"Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down...tell you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens...makes her a home." - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, "Serenity" (2005)
Acts of Gord – Read it, Learn it, Love it!
"Our psychic powers only work if the customer has a mind to read." - me
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Quoth veniteangeli View Post3. I have to make change. I don't have to be happy about it. And the ones weren't for the back bet, they were for Perfect Pairs - do you guys have that?
Quoth veniteangeliAs far as them slowing the game down, have you ever noticed that the very people who do that, are the first ones to get pissy if you have to delay it for someone else? So that's what I do. I'll zoom through the annoying chip change and shove the chips out at them in two seconds flat, but I'll take my time over anyone else's change, with lots of smiles, customer service small talk, and rapport. I can't think of a better way to get the point across that this is MY table, and we will be going at MY pace, whether you like it or not. What are they going to do, complain that I'm being friendly to the players?
Quoth veniteangeli4. I don't tell people what to do, ever. There are certain moves where I want to bang people's heads together, like you said, but I won't say anything. It's their money, if they want to piss it up against the wall playing a game they have no idea how to play, that's their lookout. My reasoning is, if I tell you what I think you should do, and you do it and lose, it opens up a can of worms where you can claim that the casino trains its dealers to deliberately make you lose by giving bad advice. I'm not going down like that.
Had another situation tonight, had 4 players at the table, doing all right, not winning a lot, but not getting crushed either. Asian lady sits down, and starts trying to dictate to the table how people were supposed to be playing their hands. Which straight up pissed off the other players. ESPECIALLY when she kept dispensing her 'advice' after she'd lost all her money, and the other 4 still had chips on the table.Dealer hits... 21. Table loses.
This happens more often than most people want to believe.
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Quoth Tuxian View PostThis is a variety called No-Hole Card Blackjack, and the odds on that variation tilt the odds much more strongly in favor of the house. And while you will hear a LOT of people try and say that the player on the dealer's right side (the "third base" player) is the most important player on the table, that's a load of crock. Every player is important, and can affect the outcome, so don't place all the onus on a single player.
However lots of superstitious players here will try to claim a difference by ignoring the times it helps them and picking on the times it helps the dealer. This is typical SC behaviour (of course look at the title of the page!)
When I played blackjack (in a far ago time in another place) there were a number of other players that hated me hitting soft 18 against the dealers A T or 9. Of course sometimes I won and sometimes I lost. Sometimes I took the T that would have given the dealer a winning hand and sometimes I took the 2 that would have busted him.
In the long run I know I won slightly more than I lost, so any objections from the other players just made me laugh. It was more obvious when I did it because I always played "3rd base" as you put it. My excuse was protecting a bad leg, but the real reason was that I got a better look at the cards from there.
Anyway, there was this other player who frothed at the mouth every time he saw me do this. One day there was only one table open and he came and sat there and huffed and puffed at me a few times to play "properly" without actually saying anything about what specific actions he would find "improper".
The casino didn't allow any arguments about how to play, so he had to be careful. So it turns out there was another player on the table the same as me, and SC sat and huffed a few times in the first 10 minutes when I did it. He totally ignored the time I busted the dealer doing it, and started to talk to himself about never winning with players like this on the table.
Then came the hand when I had soft 18, the other player had soft 18 and we both hit, and the dealer got a ten and the whole table lost. Mr Huff n Puff picked up his chips and stomped off towards the bar, still muttering about losing.
I looked at his retreating back and said to the whole table, "Well, that was the best $5 I ever lost. They all burst out laughing.
Even the dealer enjoyed it - he was sick of Mr Huff n Puff too.
I have another story about Mr Huff n Puff cheating at poker and losing because he was cheating if any one wants to hear it.
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Quoth gerund View PostEven the dealer enjoyed it - he was sick of Mr Huff n Puff too.
I have another story about Mr Huff n Puff cheating at poker and losing because he was cheating if any one wants to hear it.
And yes, please, I would love to hear the story of how an idiot could try and cheat at a poker table and do badly enough at it to lose...Dealer hits... 21. Table loses.
This happens more often than most people want to believe.
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Quoth gerund View PostThe problem with blackjack in Australia is the dealer does not get their second card until everyone has acted, so the last player to act is often blamed by superstitious players for the end result.Quoth Tuxian View PostThis is a variety called No-Hole Card Blackjack, and the odds on that variation tilt the odds much more strongly in favor of the house. And while you will hear a LOT of people try and say that the player on the dealer's right side (the "third base" player) is the most important player on the table, that's a load of crock. Every player is important, and can affect the outcome, so don't place all the onus on a single player.
Quoth veniteangeli View Post4. I don't tell people what to do, ever. There are certain moves where I want to bang people's heads together, like you said, but I won't say anything. It's their money, if they want to piss it up against the wall playing a game they have no idea how to play, that's their lookout. My reasoning is, if I tell you what I think you should do, and you do it and lose, it opens up a can of worms where you can claim that the casino trains its dealers to deliberately make you lose by giving bad advice. I'm not going down like that.Any fool can piss on the floor. It takes a talented SC to shit on the ceiling.
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