Human Pinata, or How to Be a "Man."

[Seshat]

Eirann is right - well, IMO.

Also, have the bouncers (and any off-duty or on-duty police who attend) be aware of the policy. If BB or his cronies start to cause trouble, have them removed with as little attention given to them as possible. Treat them as mobile furniture while they're there, and when they're trouble, treat them as mobile trash that needs to be taken out.

If possible, have not one word spoken to them, and have noone so much as make eye contact with them.

[Eireann]

I should have been more specific.

I didn't mean just you, Jester, I meant ALL of you. Every single person in the room. Ignore the fuckers. Pay ZERO attention to them. Walk away if they're approaching you. Do not answer if they talk to you. Whatever they do, ignore it, unless it's violent; then, call the police and let them handle it.

Remember, people like BB exist to be noticed. They couldn't care less HOW they are noticed. Negative attention, to them, is still attention. This guy stalked TD when she left him. He had to have her attention. Now he needs it from others. He'll play "poor me" to everyone he can, whenever he can, wherever he can, for as long as he can.

And, just as important, he sees himself as a good guy. Assholes don't go around saying, "God, I'm such a prick! What a loathsome waste of space I am!" They always always always attempt to justify their actions, whatever those actions may be. We all want to feel that we're good people, and BB and his ilk are no exception.

He wants to be treated as the grieving boyfriend. If he can't get that, he'll be glad to settle for "I hope you rot in hell, m*****f*****." Don't give it to him. Hard as hell though it is, don't respond to him unless he puts property or health in danger. Then, as I said before, hand it over to the police.

[Jester]

What if you cold-shoulder BB and his friends? If the temperature in the room drops markedly when they enter, it may even penetrate their primeval little vestiges of brains that they are not welcome.

My cold-shouldering him would mean nothing, as our last conversation ended with me saying, as I recall, "I hope you rot in hell, you fucking piece of shit." Yeah, after that, cold-shouldering? Not making much of an impression. He knows what I think of him. I have never hidden that, nor attempted to.

What kind of idiot will go to a place he is quite obviously not wanted?

The kind that wants to maintain the illusion that he cared for the girl he either killed or drove to suicide. Of course, there is the possibility, which I don't discount, that he actually believes he did love her, in his own way.

Sorry for the negativity of this post.....working for several hours on the flyers for TD's memorial took more out of me than I would have thought. I am somewhat somber for a Jester........

[Rahmota]

Jester:

though, that ANYONE causing trouble (including me) will be removed with prejudice. Hopefully that message will filter through to BB and his dipshit friends.

Well that might work. Hopefully they will decide to be better people but who knows.

monolayth:

What kind of idiot will go to a place he is quite obviously not wanted?

One who thinks they can proove how good and how much better they are and that they cant be shoved around and forced to not go where they want to go.......blah blah blah. I mean I can undetstand if there was a moral elg to stand on doing that but this case not only is there no moral leg there isnt even a moral stump....

[monolayth]

What kind of idiot will go to a place he is quite obviously not wanted?

[Eireann]

What if you cold-shoulder BB and his friends? If the temperature in the room drops markedly when they enter, it may even penetrate their primeval little vestiges of brains that they are not welcome.

Just a suggestion.

[Jester]

Use pigs. They can even eat a human femur, and there would be a certain poetry to it.

And as with gators, no pigs in these parts. As said, plenty of sharks, though.

In other news....the memorial/celebration of her life is going to be on Monday, February 11th at a local outdoor bar. I need to make up the flyers, as I just got workable pictures of her yesterday. Once the flyers are done, we need to get some volunteers to go around to businesses with them, asking permission to put them up and then turning around and asking the same businesses if they'd like to donate products, services, or gift certificates to the cause. The ASPCA is on board, and has actually offered to have some of their volunteers help with the flyering, which is damn cool.

Sadly, it seems that BB may be attending, as there really is no way I can keep him away without making it a whole political thing, which is what I DON'T want to do. I have made it clear to A., though, that ANYONE causing trouble (including me) will be removed with prejudice. Hopefully that message will filter through to BB and his dipshit friends.

Okay, much work to do. Bleah.

[XCashier]

We DO, however, have plenty of sharks in these parts.

Yeah, but they might leave him alone out of professional courtesy.

[Geek King]

No gators in the Keys, though. They are up in the Everglades. Besides, since they are (I think) endangered, poisoning them with foul meat like BB would be illegal.

We DO, however, have plenty of sharks in these parts.

Use pigs. They can even eat a human femur, and there would be a certain poetry to it.

[Jester]

No gators in the Keys, though. They are up in the Everglades. Besides, since they are (I think) endangered, poisoning them with foul meat like BB would be illegal.

We DO, however, have plenty of sharks in these parts.

[wolfie]

Maybe we'll get lucky and BB will walk in front of a Greyhound bus.

That's something I wouldn't want to happen - there would likely be a large number of innocent passengers traumatized (or at least delayed) by the event, and (extrapolating from what I deal with on the job) Greyhounds are limited to 41,000 pounds (12,000 on the front axle, and 29,000 on the rear pair - one of them only has single tires). On the other hand, an 18 wheeler carries at most 2 people (for a team truck) and is allowed up to 80,000 pounds gross weight - and Texas bumpers are made of 3/16" thick steel plate.

This all happened in Key West? I believe Key West is in Florida, Florida has alligators, and alligators are carnivores. One line in "The Night The Lights Went Out in Georgia" (near the end of the song) seems appropriate.

[Seshat]

Jester - get a copy of the book "Gift of Fear" and give a copy to A
(yes, this was just once again on Oprah

. . . wow. There's a book Oprah and I agree on.
(not that I know what else is on Oprah's lists)


Jester:

Organise the fundraiser. Inform the police of the situation, and ask if having a police presence at the fundraiser is possible. And ask if it would be appropriate to advertise the fundraiser with them. Off-duty police at the fundraiser can act as witnesses, even if the local laws prevent them from acting as bouncers.

Discuss with the police that you want to raise funds for a domestic-abuse shelter as well as for the ASPCA, but you're concerned about interference if you do: the police may well have ideas, or may be willing to have a visible police presence at the fundraiser to discourage trouble-makers.

[Jester]

Bad news: Stepdad found out today that the battery charges against BB have been dropped, despite assurance from one of the agencies involved that it would be pursued. He is planning on asking a LOT of questions on that one.

Talked to him tonight while I've been making salsa.

[MMATM]

Small update: it seems that the battery charges against BB from December were never dropped, and he was actually supposed to be in court this morning for arraignment on said charges. Not sure what the status of all that is, as it is all still murky, but the family is working with the appropriate agencies here to attempt to continue the prosecution on those charges. This was much needed good news to us today.

HUZZAH!

That's excellent news! With any luck, BB will still feel the dry, uncomfortable, penetrating sensation so deserved by his ilk. Didn't somebody mention OJ Simpson before, and say something about a civil suit against BB? If not, someone should. Though that'd be a lot of time and effort and you'd need a real lawyer who knew all the details to be able to judge if there was a chance of winning.

Anyhow, good luck with A. Here's hoping that she comes around.

[Jester]

Don't let the bastard keep you from honoring your friend. Don't get yourself arrested, and please gods don't get yourself killed, but stand your ground.

I wonder what A's reaction would be upon learning of the scumbags' action?

I wonder what her reaction would be if BB's actions at the memorial (or those of his 'friends') was videotaped and shown to her?

I am not about to let him from keeping me, or any of her other friends, from honoring her, remembering her, and celebrating her life. The memorial will go on. I will not get arrested (done that enough in my life, thanks), I will not (hopefully) get killed (though I do expect at some point threats of violence or violence itself against me), and I am not about to let this waste of carbon tell me what I can or cannot do.

I AM going to drop having the domestic abuse people there, not because he wants me to do so, but just so he and his friends have nothing to bitch about or cause a scene about. What, you don't think we should honor the memory of your girlfriend? What, you don't think we should raise money for animals, that your girlfriend loved? Yeah, how silly do you look?

I plan on showing A. a copy of the police report and the doctor's medical report, both of which are being sent to me by her parents.

As for BB and his friends at the memorial, they are not invited. Not just because *I* don't want them there, but because her family doesn't want him there. Chew on that, asswipe. You want to be at her memorial? Put one together yourself. (Note: something tells me a) he will show up anyway, b) he will not bother donating a thing to the ASPCA, and c) he will do something stupid, embarrassing, disrespectful, or a combination of the above.

if they do show up i suggest that the mc tell everyone so they can all point and laugh at them or something equally humilating.

I plan on going to the memorial fully armed.





With water guns.


Yep, someone acts up, I squirt them. Damn it, this is going to be a POSITIVE and FUN event honoring a sweet girl. If I have to use silliness to prevent someone from being an ass, I will.

Oh, that and we'll have a couple of large burly guys to remove any real problems.


Small update: it seems that the battery charges against BB from December were never dropped, and he was actually supposed to be in court this morning for arraignment on said charges. Not sure what the status of all that is, as it is all still murky, but the family is working with the appropriate agencies here to attempt to continue the prosecution on those charges. This was much needed good news to us today.