Very Complicated Situation.

[Zellie Crescent]

Whatever he does, Fiance should absolutely NOT tell Dad and Harpy where Fiance is. Nothing good can come of that. If they have his cell number, that's all they need. They have proven they cannot be trusted with anything else.

I completely 100% agree with Jester, he should not tell them where he is, in fact he should get them out of his life completely. After all the shit they've put you through already, just get rid of them both now and move on with your lives.

[Jester]

He hasn't been able to tell his father, because of course he hasn't taken his phone on holiday, so that will be a shock when they get back!

Good. They deserve the shock. I hope they get downright pissed off.

Whatever he does, Fiance should absolutely NOT tell Dad and Harpy where Fiance is. Nothing good can come of that. If they have his cell number, that's all they need. They have proven they cannot be trusted with anything else.

[Miss_Stress]

Right, he's moved into my auntie's house and he's well away now, but I've got a few things that happened before he left.

Firstly, his father didn't take his phone on holiday with him. Then, we had calls to that phone asking for my fiance's name and where he was, then hanging up. We then had someone come into the garden late at night. That was Saturday.

Then on Sunday, we got a call from my fiance's mother that she and her partner had had a motorbike crash and that her partner was in hospital. He will be OK, he's going to have pins in his leg.

Then Monday, we went to see his doctor about a lump on his arm that turned out to be a cyst. They got talking about his erratic blood sugars and the doctor believes he is clinically depressed.

We got his stuff packed up, then went to visit his grandmother yesterday. She has been fed half-truths and outright lies from his dad from the start, the most outrageous of which was that my fiance's mother had refused to sign the papers to sell the house. When we asked her about this, it transpired that in fact she and my fiance's father had agreed to put the house up for sale when he returned from holiday, as they didn't want my fiance dealing with people wanting to view the house while his father was away.

We moved his things into my auntie's house today, and he seems better already. He has phoned his mum and explained why he's moved, and what the doctor said, and she's said that she's going to speak to her partner when he's recovered from his operation to see if my fiance can move in with them. He hasn't been able to tell his father, because of course he hasn't taken his phone on holiday, so that will be a shock when they get back!

[CaroPhoenix]

Any more updates? Just wondering!

[Jester]

Before we all start condemning Fiance's mother, let's keep in mind that we don't know all the details of their relationship or of Mom's life or situation. There may be very good reasons, either real or real to her, why she will not let Fiance move in. Or there may be bullshit reasons. Or a combination thereof.

But no matter how valid the reasons she has, they are beside the point. The fact remains that Fiance must deal with the situation as it stands, and as it stands, his Mother's place is not a current viable option. So he must deal with the cards he's been dealt, however unfair, lame, or horrible they may be.

So let's get off the whole Mom thing and focus on the situation as it stands, please. Thank you.

[tropicsgoddess]

Good grief! I can't believe his mom won't let him move in to get away from Uber Bitch taking over the house! Glad he has his aunt's house to move into but in the meanwhile, I would definitely suggest for fiance to get a PO Box so that none of his mail comes to the house anymore before,during and after the move. Packing up and moving on the low while Uber Bitch is on holiday with fiance's dad is a good idea.

[Seshat]

Yay for your auntie. Boo for fiancee's parents (both! What sort of mother won't let her son at least crash on the couch in this sort of situation?) and crazy woman.

Is he out of there yet? Even if he has to leave everything else, and just go with himself, his identity papers and his insulin, he should be out of there.

[Jester]

Thugs my ass. 99% of the time, when someone tells someone else that they will be "watched," it is an empty threat, and there is no one watching.

That being said, Dad's girlfriend is a lunatic.

Dad is a ball-less douchebag fuckwad who needs to be whacked upside the head with a brick.

And Fiance, if he doesn't finally get out of there, is completely undeserving of all the love, support, and sympathy that has been showered on him here. Frankly, if he doesn't get out, I'd say leave him, as that would show him to be a spineless scrotumless pansy-ass lamer crybaby.

I hope he proves me wrong.

[Miss_Stress]

Right, he confronted her at home, and she promptly burst into tears and called my fiance a liar and "a bastard", and now she won't be around him. To me, that looks like an admission of guilt to me - she can't face him, and I can assure you that if anyone accused me of those things and they were lying, I would want to confront them, not run away from them.

[morgana]

Well, my fiance's father has gone BARMY, telephoned his partner and said that NOBODY threatens his son. Apparently she was going to arrange for what are basically thugs to watch the house, so what would have happened had his mother arrived at the house I don't know. I will let you know as soon as he's moved, I promise.

Well, maybe Papa-san has finally found his balls again? Any sane man would now kick that 'partner' to the curb.

Yes, please keep us updated!

[Micer]

Hurray! Very good news! He should also make sure to set up a PO box or change of addy so his mail goes to his mom, cause very sure once he's out of that house the cowbird from hell will likely toss his bills just for spite.

But hurray! He's getting out! Good luck on the move out, hope it's drama free!

[Miss_Stress]

Well, my fiance's father has gone BARMY, telephoned his partner and said that NOBODY threatens his son. Apparently she was going to arrange for what are basically thugs to watch the house, so what would have happened had his mother arrived at the house I don't know. I will let you know as soon as he's moved, I promise.

[CaroPhoenix]

Good for you and him!

I hope whomever is spying on him and you and the house (and though I say there might not be anyone spying, but then again, the woman is crazy), immediately telephones the dad & crazy woman and they have to cut their vacation short just to beg him to come back.

But then again, maybe they will just now leave everyone alone?

And please, update us when y'all move him out of the house so we know he & you are safe and sound. (and hopefully spying person won't step in and try to stop the move).

[Miss_Stress]

I spoke too soon...it's all kicked off big time! This partner has now moved in, and overheard my fiance talking to his mum on the phone. When he'd finished, she cornered him, told him not to cross her, and said that while her and my fiance's dad are away on holiday, we will be being watched (she never said by who, just that we would be being watched) to make sure that my fiance's mother does not turn up at the house. My fiance told his mother, who drove to his father's place of work to have it out with him. His father said it would be "sorted", but it's too late now. I've phoned all my relatives and got my fiance a room at my auntie's house and he can move in when he likes. So, when they go on holiday tomorrow, we will pack his stuff up and move him into my auntie's house. I REFUSE to be spied on by some woman who thinks she can control me and my fiance!

I am so mad I can hardly type this.

[CaroPhoenix]

What was his mom's reasoning for not letting him move in? Too bad there aren't any hotels that are pay-by-the week where you live. If nothing else, living there for a few days would make all the "adults" in the situation understand your fiance can't stand living with his father & his woman any longer.