Doctor Who Discussion [Spoiler Zone!]

[Kheldarson]

Also, interesting blog interpretation for why this episode was written this way: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artatt...l_the_moon.php

Also, why has this season been getting nothing but rave reviews? Why?

[Kheldarson]

we need to turn "go fratch yourself" into a thing.

We do!

But I think I'm going to go open a thread on Fratching for this episode. I had something to add off Jester's post, but can't say it here.

[gremcint]

And not to go Fratching myself

we need to turn "go fratch yourself" into a thing.

[Jester]

ok, so I don't want to start a fratching conversation but is it just me or did I watch a doctor who episode about abortion and who gets to make the decision? seriously all the male crew die, and the doctor refuses to give his opinion and it comes down to the 3 female characters to make the call.

There was unquestionably an allegory going on, and if the writers say otherwise, they're full of it.

[Kheldarson]

ok, so I don't want to start a fratching conversation but is it just me or did I watch a doctor who episode about abortion and who gets to make the decision? seriously all the male crew die, and the doctor refuses to give his opinion and it comes down to the 3 female characters to make the call.

Yes. Yes we did. And not to go Fratching myself, but from a writing perspective, I really disliked the way it was forced.

[gremcint]

ok, so I don't want to start a fratching conversation but is it just me or did I watch a doctor who episode about abortion and who gets to make the decision? seriously all the male crew die, and the doctor refuses to give his opinion and it comes down to the 3 female characters to make the call.

[mjr]

I'm still trying to figure out what's up with Missy...

She made an appearance at the end of the moon episode. I can't quite figure out what's up yet...I'm not sure Moffat has figured it out, either.

[XCashier]

Clearly Moffat needs to step down as a writer, because, from what I've seen, as a writer he basically sucks great big giant Dalek balls.

Agreed. He's not without talent, but he cares not a whit about characterization or plot, and will gladly throw both to the wind for the sake of a cheap scare or cheaper joke.

"There’s no need for character development, or chat, it’s straight into: ‘There’s something wrong here, let’s look into this deep, dark hole.’" Yes, that's an actual quote from Moffat. Read here. It's an older article, but it shows his mindset and he doesn't seem to have outgrown it.

[Kheldarson]

I'd care a bit more if it wasn't constant, boring, and kept using her as a deus ex machina. I mean with Davies' Companions we'd get their personal lives once in a while as background drama with it coming to the fore on occasion. Even Amy had a better balance, and she lost her boyfriend/husband in the midst of traveling!

[Moirae]

Really getting tired of all the focus on Clara's personal life. I really don't care. I care about adventures with the Doctor.

[Kheldarson]

We've been singing "Puff the Magic Dragon" here...

But yeah, WTF? I'm not a fan of scary, but I'm getting a little tired of these rug pulls.

[mjr]

Moffatt must be on some good stuff. The moon is an egg? And the spider-like creatures are "bacteria"?

Then he leaves the decision up to an astronaut after her two Red Shirts have died, Clara, and Courtney? Clara stops the countdown just before the nukes go boom, then the Doctor herds everyone into the Tardis to watch the creature hatch and lay ANOTHER moon-like egg??



Quotable Quotes:

The Doctor (pointing): "NASA's about 2,500 miles that way..."

[KabeRinnaul]

"It's a play!"

Everyone In The Room Watching: "GOD DAMN IT!"

[Kheldarson]

Clearly Moffat needs to step down as a writer, because, from what I've seen, as a writer he basically sucks great big giant Dalek balls.

Yep. I've been saying that since last season >.<

Definitely liked Time Heist. I wasn't looking at my phone wondering how much time had passed, which is a first this season. But the telly exposition at the end has to stop, FFS. I loved the reveal of all the rewards, I loved the twist of "we're not dead", but I hated how preachy it got around the Director. And how repetitive it was. Bleah.

[Jester]

Time Heist. Interesting. Odd. Probably the best episode yet of this new season and new Doctor. Definitely Capaldi's best performance yet. No brooding, wishy washy " am I a good man?" nonsense.

And yet.

And yet, still there's a feeling of the story being muddled. It's becoming clear to me that the problem with the new Doctor is not the new Doctor. Capaldi is coming into his own. The scripts, however, are not. The problem with the new Doctor, in my opinion, is the damn writers. They're really not giving Capaldi or Coleman, or anyone else for that matter, much to work with.

Clearly Moffat needs to step down as a writer, because, from what I've seen, as a writer he basically sucks great big giant Dalek balls.